scarbo help needed

[elevateme]

ok i need help making some notes staccato

in bar 356-358, the RH is 42 - 135 - 42 - how do i play those notes staccato up to speed? and how would i go about practising it?

for anyone that has learned scarbo any help would be greatly appreciated

thanks in advance if anyone has any advice

[elevateme]

please

[Kassaa]

I don't think a lot of people have played scarbo here . I might poke into the obvious with this, but try to practice it with your fingers at the keys the keys and try to make the fastest movement with your fingers possible. I don't know what notes you have to play (my score has no measure numbers), but after you have achieved more finger speed, you can try to add a bit of wrist movement to speed it up even more.

[elevateme]

how do i speed it up with my wrists??

[Kassaa]

how do i speed it up with my wrists??

I think finger+wrist movement together is faster than only one of the two. It's like running with the wind on your back.

[dnephi]

how do i speed it up with my wrists??

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Work on wrist action with some etudes, easy to find.  Have a teacher?  You need some help, I think.

[franzliszt2]

Ok, I havn't really studied scarbo but I no what your finding hard.

Your looking towards the wrists to do the work, Don't. Totally relax the wrists, use the arm. Relax the whole are from the shoulder. Let the arm do all the work, do not try to relax the wrist, it will come naturally if the arm is relaxed. If you play it with just your fingers it will go wrong. Let the arm do all the work.

Pure relaxation is the key to all difficult passages. If you try to play fast you'll tense. Find the positions, practice it in positions, look at the arm movement during everything, overdo it slowly, and get a feel for the shapes it all creates, (Circular, triangular etc...) and then use he arm to create the shapes, and just let the fingers mould into the keyboard and press the note, the arm will provide the power, the wrist will get you the staccato.

Hope that makes sense! 

[lostinidlewonder]

This is hardly a difficulty in Scarbo did you start here or what? Try playing the 42 to 135 by itself very rapidly. You will notice it is very easily done, but when we have to come back to 42 this can produce tension in our hands, try to answer why is it when coming back to the 42 is there tension for you.

You have ensure that when you play 135 you DO NOT press your hand into the keyboard, in fact while you play these note your hand should suspend above the notes and a very sublte finger AND wrist action together will produce the notes quite effortlessly. The wrist movment is very small, put your fingertips on the table and then lift them off by angling your hand upwards very slightly. That is the action you need, do not move the forearm, the only movement there will be a reaction force flowing from the fingers/wrist striking the notes. The staccato comes from poking the notes from the wrist/fingers, you cannot push off from the notes since they are rapid.