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Offline elevateme

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Gavrilov
on: January 09, 2007, 10:27:10 PM


please watch this before voting
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Offline opus10no2

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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #1 on: January 09, 2007, 11:22:47 PM
I love that performance, so eccentric but so good.
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #2 on: January 10, 2007, 01:10:48 AM
This is clearly not one of his better efforts. I usually like his playing very much, especially in his studio version of Gaspard.
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #3 on: January 10, 2007, 01:40:00 AM
Quote from: minor9th on January 10, 2007, 01:10:48 AM
This is clearly not one of his better efforts. I usually like his playing very much, especially in his studio version of Gaspard.
heartily agreed.
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Offline minor9th

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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #4 on: January 10, 2007, 06:12:41 AM
This is a better, though not "perfect" representation of him:

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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #5 on: January 10, 2007, 08:30:42 AM
Wow, that's quite some act.

I don't like it that much though. I liked it when he was younger.
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #6 on: July 08, 2007, 10:48:29 PM
i think there used to be way more replies than this

'tis true? this doesnt appear to be the original 1913 version
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #7 on: July 09, 2007, 01:50:08 AM
the scarbo from da COMME ...true bad
him as a pianist good
him as a pianist now bad
him as a pianist earlier good true
he was a really true mOFOizh style...I know and we know that you can play scarbo dont need to repeat  8)
and....to judge one pianist with a vid is really stupid.....you should do what he did and has done....what would be billions miles away from us  8)
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #8 on: July 09, 2007, 06:07:08 PM
Quote from: etudes on July 09, 2007, 01:50:08 AM
and....to judge one pianist with a vid is really stupid

not just that vid. his studio recording of gaspard and chopin studies and chopin ballades.
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #9 on: July 10, 2007, 01:35:21 AM
The playing  was good but man...that was an impressive MULLET he was sportin' on the Prokofiev!
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #10 on: July 10, 2007, 03:52:02 PM

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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #11 on: July 12, 2007, 12:56:29 AM
Dat is a hell of a CD - Prok 7 1st movt is an awesome performance!
Strangely, his suggestion diabolique vid below is rather sub par technically even.
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Reply #12 on: July 13, 2007, 08:13:42 PM
MAURIZIO POLLINI IS KING OF PROK 7. no one comes near.
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Reply #13 on: July 13, 2007, 11:29:09 PM
oh. does everyone agree?!?!?!
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #14 on: July 14, 2007, 12:55:00 AM
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #15 on: July 14, 2007, 06:14:10 AM
Quote from: elevateme_returns on July 13, 2007, 08:13:42 PM
MAURIZIO POLLINI IS KING OF PROK 7. no one comes near.

Richter destroys Pollini in this piece
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #16 on: July 14, 2007, 06:51:17 AM
Quote from: pita bread on July 14, 2007, 06:14:10 AM
Richter destroys Pollini in this piece

As do Horowitz and Daniel Pollack.

Regarding the original question, I think the performance is undeniably good, although I prefer others, notably Michelangeli and Argerich.
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #17 on: July 14, 2007, 04:07:06 PM
Quote from: pita bread on July 14, 2007, 06:14:10 AM
Richter destroys Pollini everyone in this piece

haha true tha '54 performance is unbelievable
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #18 on: July 14, 2007, 07:29:43 PM
Quote from: rob47 on July 14, 2007, 04:07:06 PM
haha true tha '54 performance is unbelievable

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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #19 on: July 14, 2007, 09:22:56 PM
Quote from: pita bread on July 14, 2007, 06:14:10 AM
Richter destroys Pollini in this piece

i like richter's prok 6. but i still think pollini's is better. is that a valid opinion?
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #20 on: July 14, 2007, 10:09:32 PM
Quote from: elevateme_returns on July 14, 2007, 09:22:56 PM
i like richter's prok 6. but i still think pollini's is better. is that a valid opinion?

Sure it is, but so is mine.
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #21 on: July 14, 2007, 10:11:36 PM
Quote from: pita bread on July 14, 2007, 10:09:32 PM
Sure it is, but so is mine.

yes but so is mine
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #22 on: July 14, 2007, 11:35:56 PM
Quote from: elevateme_returns on July 14, 2007, 10:11:36 PM
yes but so is mine

Where did I ever say your opinion isn't valid?
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #23 on: July 15, 2007, 01:21:51 PM
I don't have much experience either listening or playing this type of music, but to me it sounds like he could hit many wrong notes and I would never know, that he is improving also. Also, if I were to say what was the composer trying to convey, what general feeling, it would be " I am not a multitasker, and it's driving me nuts!" I guess i'm just too inexperienced to "get it". Thanks for the link though.

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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #24 on: July 15, 2007, 04:37:31 PM
Quote from: pita bread on July 14, 2007, 11:35:56 PM
Where did I ever say your opinion isn't valid?

Where did i ever say yours isnt valid?
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Reply #25 on: July 15, 2007, 05:10:57 PM
I seriously don't think it's fair to say that Pollini's is better than Richters or Richters is better than Pollini's. They are both incredible artists (although I'm not a fan of most of Pollini's playing, his Prok and stravinsky is unbelievable) and should not be compared in a "one is better than the other sense.

To claim the Richter "destroys" him is just a childish thing to state with no supporting argument. Why does he destroy Pollini? I don't believe a performance of this standered can be "destroyed". Maybe you prefer the Richter one, but please don't make such a bold statement and not even back it up.

I don't think Argerich compares to these 2 artists. Her Prokofiev is wild, and can be exciting (her toccata) but I feel that she sacrifyces to much to get the speed and energy. Her concerto recording of the 3rd is weak in terms of sound, and her Prok 7 sounds unclear to my ears and bugs me. Prokofiev should still have a strong powerfull sound, and not a brittle sound, and I feel she crosses over to brittle to often.

I havn;t her Michalangeli's Prokofiev ever, so I can't comment, but I'm very interested to hear it. His playing always arouses my attention. I imagine it to be somewhat calmer than Richters... am I correct?
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #26 on: July 15, 2007, 07:00:44 PM
Michelangeli plays Prokofiev?
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #27 on: July 15, 2007, 08:01:54 PM
Oh gosh, I just realised I misread an earlier quote which was reffering to the original question, which of course was scarbo. I thought we were comparing Argerich and Michalangeli's prokofiev. I havn't came across any michalangeli Prokofiev recordings. Did he make any? I have almost all the recordings of Michalangeli on cd and they contain no prok
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #28 on: July 15, 2007, 09:41:37 PM
Quote from: elevateme_returns on July 15, 2007, 04:37:31 PM
Where did i ever say yours isnt valid?

*Personal attack*
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Reply #29 on: July 15, 2007, 09:43:33 PM
Quote from: opus10no2 on July 15, 2007, 09:41:37 PM
*Personal attack*

yeah, on me!

pollini's prokofiev 7 won recording of the year
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Reply #30 on: July 15, 2007, 10:01:30 PM
You won my 'douche of the year' award.

A dubious honour?
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #31 on: July 16, 2007, 12:25:30 AM
Quote from: franzliszt2 on July 15, 2007, 08:01:54 PM
Oh gosh, I just realised I misread an earlier quote which was reffering to the original question, which of course was scarbo. I thought we were comparing Argerich and Michalangeli's prokofiev. I havn't came across any michalangeli Prokofiev recordings. Did he make any? I have almost all the recordings of Michalangeli on cd and they contain no prok

Damn you got my hopes up.
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Re: Gavrilov
Reply #32 on: July 16, 2007, 02:12:18 AM
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