tearful piece

[korsol]

I have heard a myth that it is one piece that are so depressing and tearfull that people that listen to it will go and kill themselfe. I once have heard this piece, but didn't feel like kill myself. Anyhow, does anyone know the name of this piece, or have the sheets?

[brahms4me]

As interesting and fascinating as it may seem, I really do think this a myth.  In general, people react in many different ways to a given piece of music - the same with a movie, book, image, or idea.  And IF that piece existed (with the intended result) why would you want to play it?

Come to think of it, I sometimes want to end it all after practicing my Scriabin or Chopin Etude.   

[pianistimo]

was that something of prokofiev's?  i just thought it was rhythmic insanity.  i kind of enjoyed playing it (one of the piano concerti).  maybe for some people - it's crazy music.  for me - rhythmic challenges create something where i can intensely focus on this brain activity of correct rhythms. 

[dnephi]

Perhaps it was the Richard Strauss Elektra?  That is pretty depressing ;0.

[korsol]

the piece DOES exist, but that it is so depressive that people take their own life is just a myth. I whant to play it because i liked the song, and its quite different from all other pieces I have ever played

[korsol]

dnephi. if you have that piece on your computer, could you send it to me?

[hummel]

I'm pretty sure that the piece you mean is Gloomy Sunday by Deszo Seress.
for info, refer to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloomy_Sunday

[hummel]

For a sample recording of this piece:
https://www.mm.aueb.gr/~antoniad/music/diamanda%20galas%20-%20gloomy%20sunday.mp3

[hummel]

Or another one:
https://www.archive.org/download/PaulWhitemanwithJohnnyHauser/PaulWhitemanwithJohnnyHauser-GloomySunday.mp3

[counterpoint]

Perhaps that's the song (Killing me softly)

The song was inspired by a poem by Lori Lieberman, Killing Me Softly with His Blues, which she wrote after seeing a then-unknown Don McLean perform the song Empty Chairs live.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_Me_Softly_with_His_Song

[pianistimo]

the italian version:  'he kills me singing?'  wow.  song meanings really change in other languages.  and the one - 'chicken singing.'  that would make one attempt suicide. 

[counterpoint]

the italian version:  'he kills me singing?'  wow.  song meanings really change in other languages.  and the one - 'chicken singing.'  that would make one attempt suicide. 

Pianistimo, I don't quite understand what you mean with your "italian version" statement ;-)

But you are right: the meaning of song lyrics do change a lot, when you hear them day for day in radio and tv.

It's a really sad song, if you read between the lines... (it's surely not a lovesong!)

EDIT:

It's not about killing either - but about hopelessness!

[apion]

I've been told that the slow movement of Mozart's 23rd Piano Concerto is a good suicide accompaniment 

[mad_max2024]

It's not a musical piece, it's an IRS form...

[korsol]

Do anyone of you got the sheets for Gloomy Sunday ?

[ahinton]

I've been told that the slow movement of Mozart's 23rd Piano Concerto is a good suicide accompaniment 

I am sure that we're all pleased that you do not have the benefit of incontrovertible proof to back this up.

Anyway, the thread is supposed to be about a "tearful piece" (whatever that is supposed to mean - it might just be any piece to which anyone cares to listen while peeling and chopping onions) and not about suicide-inducing pieces; I cannot think of any piece that is supposed specifically to induce suicidal tendencies and the only one that immediately occurs to me that even mentions the subject is Leo Ornstein's early piano piece Suicide in an Airplane, composed almost 90 years before 9/11...

Best,

Alistair

[mad_max2024]

If a piece induced suicide upon hearing it, it probably wouldn't be very widely known.
Just a thought...

[ahinton]

If a piece induced suicide upon hearing it, it probably wouldn't be very widely known.
Just a thought...

And quite a neat one, really, as far as it goes (or indeed can go), subject, of course, to the extent to which any such suicide might have been induced by the composer in the pianist or by one or other or both in a member or members of the audience. But let's not pursue this largely frivolous train of non-thought...

Best,

Alistair

[elevateme]

anything by W.H.Squire

that should make you commit suicide

[infectedmushroom]

For a sample recording of this piece:
https://www.mm.aueb.gr/~antoniad/music/diamanda%20galas%20-%20gloomy%20sunday.mp3

Woow, this gave me goosebumps all over my body.

[apion]

Anyway, the thread is supposed to be about a "tearful piece" ... and not about suicide-inducing pieces;

Minor point of clarification: I was referring to SUICIDE-ACCOMPANYING pieces, not SUICIDE -INDUCING music.

[liszt-essence]

Or another one:
https://www.archive.org/download/PaulWhitemanwithJohnnyHauser/PaulWhitemanwithJohnnyHauser-GloomySunday.mp3

The melody sounds very familiar to me.

[ahinton]

Minor point of clarification: I was referring to SUICIDE-ACCOMPANYING pieces, not SUICIDE -INDUCING music.

Fair enough, but that's hardly the point; the thread is about "tearful piece(s)", not those which either induce, accompany or even relate tales of suicide(s) (assuming that a piece of music could even do such a thing in the first place)....

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

I cannot listen to or play the Gluck-Sgambati - Melodie without crying my eyes out.

Thal

[Kassaa]

I cannot listen to or play the Gluck-Sgambati - Melodie without crying my eyes out.

Thal

You shouldn't stick the sheets in your eye.

[apion]

Fair enough, but that's hardly the point; the thread is about "tearful piece(s)", not those which either induce, accompany or even relate tales of suicide(s) (assuming that a piece of music could even do such a thing in the first place)....

Best,

Alistair

Fine, then .... The Adagio (2nd movement) of Mozart's Piano Concerto no. 23 is a "tearful piece."

[mad_max2024]

Fair enough, but that's hardly the point; the thread is about "tearful piece(s)", not those which either induce, accompany or even relate tales of suicide(s) (assuming that a piece of music could even do such a thing in the first place)....

Best,

Alistair

Actually, tearful pieces is just the title of the thread
He then specifically requests a suicide-inducing song in the first post...

[elevateme]

what about chopin prelude no 15?

also for the cheese factor    liebestraume 3