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pianistimo
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schubert op 142 no 2
on: January 21, 2007, 04:20:13 AM
i haven't really worked this, per se - but just sort of decided to play it tonght. here's the first part.
it's an echo of the allegretto from beethoven's piano trio op 70 no 2
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Schubert: Impromptu Op. 142 No. 2 in A-flat Major
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Re: schubert op 142 no 2
Reply #1 on: January 21, 2007, 04:34:42 AM
second mvt - the start of five variations (theme) on schubert's favorite theme from the a minor quartet (&rosamunde)
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pianistimo
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Re: schubert op 142 no 2
Reply #2 on: January 21, 2007, 04:36:47 AM
variation I
secret: on the third measure from the end - use your lh for the middle two notes of the rh last beat. (the D and F/Bb 2 - 13) then on the next to last measure the lh would be 25, 13, 24, 15, 135.
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rachfan
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Re: schubert op 142 no 2
Reply #3 on: February 01, 2007, 04:03:54 AM
Pianistimo,
You play with extraordinary evenness. I like your phrasing too. You display much musicality. If I had to make one suggestion, (and I realize you need to do a little polishing on this piece), it would be to bring out the dramatic dynamic contrasts of Schubert. As you know, he shared a unique period with Beethoven, both having one foot in Viennese Classicism and the other in the Romantic Age. So they were both what I would call transitional Pre-Romantics in music history. Both loved to lull their listeners, then suddenly jolt them. I didn't get that in this particular rendition though. I've attached my own recording here, if you'd like to hear it.
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pianistimo
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Re: schubert op 142 no 2
Reply #4 on: February 01, 2007, 04:31:52 PM
agreed about contrast. i just like bringing the dynamics a bit closer to each other. once i read something about putting sfz's in context. that's the viennese way. listen to one of the greats play this sonata - and it won't be exceedingly loud even in the seemingly marked areas. it will be 'in context.'
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rachfan
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Re: schubert op 142 no 2
Reply #5 on: February 02, 2007, 12:55:17 AM
Hi,
I totally agree with you. There is no such thing as absolute forte. Forte is relative based on the context of the individual piece, same as p. I still think you could safely and appropriately make a little bit more of the fortes in this piece though.
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Re: schubert op 142 no 2
Reply #6 on: February 02, 2007, 01:20:27 AM
hehe i play this impromptu as well. Your phrasing was great. When I first downloaded this I thought it would be a sloppy disconected mess. Your trio section was also suprisingly good. It had great eveness.
Keep it up!
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Re: schubert op 142 no 2
Reply #7 on: February 02, 2007, 04:31:10 AM
thanks! there's always something to work on. agreed about contrasts.
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