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Offline annie5

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Analysis of Beethovenīs "Pathetique"
on: January 21, 2007, 01:39:51 PM
Does anybody posses a thorough analysis of Beethovenīs sonata op. 13 "Pathetique"? (or do you now where to find it?) I would like to study it so if you could help me I would be very happy...
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Offline avetma

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Re: Analysis of Beethovenīs "Pathetique"
Reply #1 on: January 21, 2007, 02:04:22 PM
Pianist Andreas Schiff, the lectures: https://download.guardian.co.uk/sys-audio/Arts/Culture/2006/11/09/pathetique.mp3  - Piano Sonata op.13, Pathetique.

Greetings,
Ante :)

Offline xhunterjx

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Re: Analysis of Beethovenīs "Pathetique"
Reply #2 on: January 21, 2007, 02:38:21 PM
Does any one have an analysis of Op. 2 no. 3

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Re: Analysis of Beethovenīs "Pathetique"
Reply #3 on: January 21, 2007, 03:25:39 PM
https://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Here it is. Along with some other Beethoven Piano Sonatas.

I hope this helps.

Greets,
Ante

Offline mikey6

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Re: Analysis of Beethovenīs "Pathetique"
Reply #4 on: January 22, 2007, 05:35:06 AM
https://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html

Here it is. Along with some other Beethoven Piano Sonatas.

I hope this helps.

Greets,
Ante
Great site, thanks!
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Re: Analysis of Beethovenīs "Pathetique"
Reply #5 on: January 25, 2007, 07:37:34 PM
Although not an in-depth analysis, here are the liner notes for this particular Sonata from Robert Silverman's 10 CD set of Beethoven's 32 Sonatas.

Silverman has given me permission to post this material.


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Offline pianistimo

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Re: Analysis of Beethovenīs "Pathetique"
Reply #6 on: January 25, 2007, 08:14:04 PM
this is good stuff - between avetma and allthumbs.  interesting to read about analysis and how different people approach it.  always some new turn or direction.  with the beethoven grosse fugue - one scholar got so frustrated by the beginning and end that he started with the middle (or around the middle).  he says - he thinks that's what beethoven himself did - using the main ideas from this section to spread out thinner and thinner to the beginning and ending.  a sort of crescendo  main section decrescendo of form.  no real substantive form until one sees the motives.

now, with the pathetique - i think that in the first movement - measures 221 - open like sun peering through clouds.  you hear the pathos in the 'sigh' of the sf's - and then the jubilance of overcoming these sorrows at 227 228 with the emergence of the trills - as one hurdle is overcome and another and another.  pretty soon - it's like a resolution of everything that has been 'pent up' from the huge beginning and somewhat repeat of the ending.
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