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Offline liszt-essence

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Winter wind, chopin's original fingering?
on: January 27, 2007, 09:23:24 PM
Hi,

I'm going to learn winterwind, but wanted to make sure that the edition I have, uses chopins original fingering?

My question is regarding the fingering for the big descending melody, which starts right after the short soft intro.

I have Friedman's edition, which fingers it like:

5241 3251 4251 5241 5241 5242 etc


Is this how Chopin fingered it? If not, do you know which fingering he applied for this section? There's a special reason I want to know this, because I intend to play it using his fingering, so that I really get into the technique Chopin had in mind when he wrote this piece.  Thanks in Advance!
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Offline le_poete_mourant

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Re: Winter wind, chopin's original fingering?
Reply #1 on: January 28, 2007, 05:17:42 PM
I use the Padewerski Edition, and in the commentary in the back, they usually say when they use Chopin's own fingering, I think.  They cite Chopin's autograph in a couple places in the commentary. 

The primary fingering is
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5-41 3-5- 4251 5241 5241
, the dashes being omissions.  Just like yours except for the 20th note of this group, which is a 2 in yours. 

This may be Chopin's original fingering; it is in a similar bolded style as the original fingering notated in Op. 25 No. 2.  There is an alternate fingering, not bolded, under: 

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5241 4231 4231
I would guess this is the editorial suggestion. 

The only references I could find to fingering in the beginning, from the Paderewski commentary is this:
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Bar 11.  MS [Chopin's autograph] and GE [the original German Edition], but not FE [the original French Edition], indicate the thumb on the bass notes G#1 and C#2. 

But I guess that isn't very helpful. 

However, if the primary fingering given is not Chopin's, I think it is probably the most common fingering. 

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Re: Winter wind, chopin's original fingering?
Reply #2 on: January 29, 2007, 12:07:11 AM
Thanks for the effort tho.

I asked someone else, and he gave me the same fingering for the piece I have in my edition. Which is indeed similar to yours.

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Re: Winter wind, chopin's original fingering?
Reply #3 on: December 15, 2011, 01:08:48 AM
The Friedmann fingering that you mentioned is a good one to use. I'm using it and it works completely fine- it fits the hand structure.

My playing with that fingering
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