Poulenc's Concerto For Piano and Orchestra!

[sweet_pianistgirl]

Hi!I'm going to play Poulenc's Piano Concerto.I couldn't find anywhere İf you have,can you send this recording to me please??I wil be grateful.

[thalbergmad]

AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I am not even gonna say it.

Thal

[mad_max2024]

Lol
It is copyrighted

If you mean the sheets, you can order them here
https://www.di-arezzo.co.uk//detail_notice.php?no_article=SALAB01466
just be sure to check if that's what you want since I don't know the piece

I'm starting the poulenc toccata myself and I found it unusually hard to find Poulenc's piano works around the internet
I ended up ordering it from this site where I found most of his other works as well

For the recording I'm afraid I can't help you, and besides, this is a sheet music request forum

Hope it helps

[sweet_pianistgirl]

thank you for your helping mad_max!:)i know it is hard to find poulenc around the internet but i thought maybe i could find here.

well,i'll go on looking for the recording:)

you say here is sheet music request forum and look at under the title it says it is also discussion about recordings so i can ask here:)thanks again...

Verda

Lol
It is copyrighted

If you mean the sheets, you can order them here
https://www.di-arezzo.co.uk//detail_notice.php?no_article=SALAB01466
just be sure to check if that's what you want since I don't know the piece

I'm starting the poulenc toccata myself and I found it unusually hard to find Poulenc's piano works around the internet
I ended up ordering it from this site where I found most of his other works as well

For the recording I'm afraid I can't help you, and besides, this is a sheet music request forum

Hope it helps

[crocket]

  AH THANK GOD

i have been looking for this concerto for months. i've wanted to play it so badly.
thank you thank you thank you!
i love this concerto with a passion. the first movement is quite amazing. not to mention the entire thing.
oh and if you're looking for a recording go to rhapsody. specifically this recording: https://www.rhapsody.com/album/poulencconcertosorchestralchoralworks?artistId=art.11413943

it's quite good.
again thank you for the link to the music.

[rhapsody4]

Has anyone else noticed that Poulenc's piano sheet music is hideously overpriced when compared with any other major composer? (not including contemporary composers whose work tends not to be stocked, but let's not go down that route in this thread). For example, last time I checked, the Trois Pieces set was priced at £14.95 at my local dealer. For around 12 pages of music, this is very expensive! Ravel is similar, although to a much lesser extent.

Does anyone know any reason for this other than that Poulenc is still in copyright in the U.K.? Having said that, Rachmaninov, Gershwin and Shostakovich are also in copyright and I have never noticed their music being so extortionate.

Rhapsody

[thalbergmad]

Apart from a few pieces published by J W Chester, I feel that a large amount of his works were not published in UK & would therefore have to be imported.

The general price of sheetmusic in this Country does seem to be rather high, which is why i spend half my life crawling around 2nd hand book shops.

Thal

[kitty on the keys]

Thal, Also keep and eye out for teachers that are retiring--and want to 'get rid' of music. I have gotten stuff for a steal if not for free. Thanks for all your help here---Kitty

[indutrial]

Apart from a few pieces published by J W Chester, I feel that a large amount of his works were not published in UK & would therefore have to be imported.

The general price of sheetmusic in this Country does seem to be rather high, which is why i spend half my life crawling around 2nd hand book shops.

Thal

Marks of an industry that deserves to be dead. Even the college library I associate with balks at some of the prices that French publishing houses are charging for chamber pieces (let alone piano solo pieces) by composers like Poulenc and Milhaud. I recently ordered an 8 page piano piece by Tibor Harsanyi that needed to be imported and the price almost exceeded $20 without shipping. Then I waited 6 weeks and received a beat-up old copy of the piece that must have been printed in the 1930s (yellowed paper, tattered corners, barely stays in one piece) . Wow, that was worth it. What sucks more is that there's little rhyme or reason behind a lot of the pricing. After receiving the Harsanyi piece, I ordered Milhaud's Sonata for Harpsichord and Violin, a much larger and very rare work to find sheet music for. What did they charge me for that...................$5!!!!...and it looked brand-new and untouched and wasn't a xerox or anything. Certain companies are definitely more culprit than others. Leduc, Heugel, and EWH stand out as most offensive to me, especially since they refuse to produce xeroxes of their OOP works and seem to have everything in their catalogues priced at extortionary rates. They need to figure out that ink and paper aren't as rare as they used to be (if ever in western countries) and that not everybody who would like sheet music has a school funding their purchase orders.

[thalbergmad]

Thal, Also keep and eye out for teachers that are retiring--and want to 'get rid' of music. I have gotten stuff for a steal if not for free. Thanks for all your help here---Kitty

Very good idea.

Also collections from deceased composers can be extremely interesting.

Thal

[thalbergmad]

Certain companies are definitely more culprit than others. Leduc, Heugel, and EWH stand out as most offensive to me, especially since they refuse to produce xeroxes of their OOP works and seem to have everything in their catalogues priced at extortionary rates.

I wondered why ordering from Di-Arezzo seemed to be rather expensive.

I am thankful that my interests lie mainly in the 19th century, so i can order out of print works from university libraries at reasonable rates. A company holding a copyright have got you by the bollox and can charge what they want, or refuse to help at all as you mention.

Not wishing to start off another argument, but the Finnissy string trio would appear to be a little expensive at $230.

The greedier the publishers get, the more people will use alternative means.

Thal

[gerry]

Remember when Durand had the corner (copyright) on Debussy and Ravel, etc.? Expensive but such cheap paper, my copies hardly stay upright on the music stand anymore (not to mention the larger size format).

[thalbergmad]

The grammage of paper used does appear to have decreased over the last 50 years or so. Some appear to be only using 90-100 grammes which is insufficient.

Some of my older scores are 120 + grammes.

Thal

[gerry]

Thal, Also keep and eye out for teachers that are retiring--and want to 'get rid' of music. I have gotten stuff for a steal if not for free. Thanks for all your help here---Kitty

My college professor did just that - took me down into his basement and said, "take what you want" - ended up with lots of oversized Russian editions of Schwarenka, Scriabin, etc. and the Liszt/Schubert Lieder transcriptions. It was fabulous.

[thalbergmad]

You must have felt as Howard Carter did when he first saw the treasures of Tutankhamun's tomb.

Thal

[gerry]

You must have felt as Howard Carter did when he first saw the treasures of Tutankhamun's tomb.

Thal

Yes, indeed, and my discovery didn't carry a curse with it...or did it

[indutrial]

The greedier the publishers get, the more people will use alternative means.
Thal

My issue with publishers wouldn't be as pronounced if more of them simply got with the f**king times about things. There's no reason in the world why pretty much any and every copyrighted work in their catalogues should NOT be made available, at least as some kind of xerox that will at least stay in one piece. The prices are a total crock, even with the whole import thing. There are certainly people out there who are doing this the right way. When I started studying Jean Absil (neoclassical Belgian composer) I ordered all four study scores of his string quartets and a few other chamber pieces from www.cebedem.com . The price was amazing (less than $100 total for 6 things, all over 25 pages) and they didn't sodomize me on shipping and handling. Granted, they are more along the lines of a library in terms of the way they function, but the publications are still their primary means of profit. Two of the items were printed and assembled for my order. Another publisher that does a quality job is the Netherlands' Donemus label, who I've ordered works of Badings and Hans Kox from. Prices are fair and the editions are reprinted or xeroxed if need be.

Now what does a bad label do? Look no further than the jerks who run Denmark's EWH, who I've had the total misfortune of interacting with on a few occasions when I've been studying works by Bentzon, Norgard, Holmboe, etc... For a while, I've wanted to order some of the volumes of Bentzon's "Tempered Piano" series, but the prices on each of the 13 volumes are all over the place. The first one is the only one that is typeset and it is listed at $35 or so, which is high...but doable. The second one is the same length in time but it is not typeset. Price on that one: $90!!! what!!!! The later ones have all kinds of prices in between those two figures, but there's no consistency or accountability that would explain why. The details in their catalogue are total horseshit and they don't seem like they're even remotely interested in selling the stuff at all. In an e-mail, one of them said that not all of them are even available. Why the hell is that? If they're willing to list them in their catalogue and lord over their reproduction rights, you'd think that they would be willing to copy the frigging things when somebody was showing interest in them. That publisher can go to hell. From what I've heard through my research contacts, Niels Viggo Bentzon had a pretty bad relationship with EWH and those a-holes weren't even publishing all of the compositions he was submitting to them under the contract they had. Thanks to their crap prices, it matters little that they ever published them at all. It's not like it's affordable.

[thalbergmad]

I cannot for the life of me understand why a publisher would include something in their catalogue and then not make it available.

Daftest thing i have ever heard.

Thal

[point of grace]

i think i can get this... does it have an op. number!??!

oh my gosh, yesterday i listened to the poulenc's concerto por 2 pianos...
WAW
I REALLY LIKED IT!


have u ever listened to iT?