The Wuhrer-Chopin Etudes

[opus10no2]

Based on a similar idea to the Godowsky studies, these are much more simple in intent - Wuhrer doesn't really invest any new compositional elements into these studies.

Basically for 18 Chopin Etudes, he displaces the difficult figuration to the other hand, and rearranges everything to be more pianistic and still sound good.

I think this is just as viable and justified and Godowsky's method(he basically made entirely new compositions based on the same material).

I think these are a great idea, and they make me think, that with not too much effort, it is possible to rearrange Chopin Etudes to cover just about ALL of the technical figurations that have come into use since his time.

[ramseytheii]

Where can we see them?

Walter Ramsey

[opus10no2]

https://www.sendspace.com/file/dq4w4i

This is 1 of 6 files that contain the whole set.

Observe the 10/9, 10/12, and 25/4 - the pieces originally intended for difficulty in the left hand, have been transferred to the right hand.

10/10 is difficult in both hands, so it has just been reversed.

10/4 and a couple others are omitted simply because they have the same kind of difficulty in both hands and it just wouldn't work musically.

[dabbler]

I think this is just as viable and justified and Godowsky's method(he basically made entirely new compositions based on the same material).

Haven't heard of the Wuhrer studies before, but they sure look interesting. It might be less original than what Godowsky did in some of his studies when building a whole new work "on top" of Chopin, but it's probably still fun to play and possibly also to listen to.

I think these are a great idea, and they make me think, that with not too much effort, it is possible to rearrange Chopin Etudes to cover just about ALL of the technical figurations that have come into use since his time.

That would be a nice stunt -- but I have some doubts about the "not too much effort"
A fun thing to get started with would be a repeated notes study (e.g. in the style of Campanella, Tarantella from Venezia e Napoli, Debussy Pour les notes repetees, ....), starting from op.10/x or op.25/y...

[cygnusdei]

I'd love to see the Op. 25 no. 6.

[opus10no2]

Haven't heard of the Wuhrer studies before, but they sure look interesting. It might be less original than what Godowsky did in some of his studies when building a whole new work "on top" of Chopin, but it's probably still fun to play and possibly also to listen to.

That would be a nice stunt -- but I have some doubts about the "not too much effort"
A fun thing to get started with would be a repeated notes study (e.g. in the style of Campanella, Tarantella from Venezia e Napoli, Debussy Pour les notes repetees, ....), starting from op.10/x or op.25/y...

Well, part of the genius of the Chopin etudes is that their musical and technical material is so mutateable.

I'd love to see the Op. 25 no. 6.

Here they all are -

https://www.sendspace.com/file/tmay9m

The 25/6 isn't as interesting musically as the Godowsky version, but it's actually harder, because unlike the Godowsky, there's no hand swapping to facilitate it.

It also goes in the contrary motion, which is also interesting, and also good because it's something different to the Godowsky..

[pita bread]

I gotta agree with Comme again, these are pretty awesome.

[opus10no2]

They do look great, but I would like to hear them, does anyone know if they've ever been recorded or made into MIDIs?