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Women of the keyboard
on: February 13, 2007, 11:58:34 PM
An opportunity to discuss famous female pianists passed present and up and coming talents!!

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #1 on: February 14, 2007, 12:34:21 AM
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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #2 on: February 14, 2007, 12:40:21 AM
agreed she is a stunning artist and very interesting musical personality. Enjoy! ;D

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #3 on: February 14, 2007, 01:34:31 AM
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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #4 on: February 14, 2007, 01:45:57 AM
Argerich is by far me favorite living pianist. (Male, female, or any type of male.)

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #5 on: February 14, 2007, 01:49:48 AM
She certainly is fiery and plays with unprecedented commitment to whatever she plays. I enjoy that too. Anyone got anystories about older ones ie Carreno, Wieck, Haskil and Beach etc?? - Keep em coming in.

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #6 on: February 14, 2007, 01:56:11 AM
My pick for top girltuosos: Rosina Lhevinne & Annie Fischer.

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #7 on: February 14, 2007, 01:59:52 AM
Indeed. Two huge names in the piano world. Could you name some characteristics of them you particularly admire jakev2.0?? for those that may be less familiar with who they are and what were their distinguishing attributes.

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #8 on: February 14, 2007, 02:34:45 AM
Two of my favorites are Dame Myra Hess and Alicia de Larrocha.

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #9 on: February 14, 2007, 05:10:30 AM
Amanda Palmer and Tori Amos.
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Scares me more than anything in the world
I could hit or miss, but to just sit here like this
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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #10 on: February 14, 2007, 05:33:13 AM
Indeed. Two huge names in the piano world. Could you name some characteristics of them you particularly admire jakev2.0?? for those that may be less familiar with who they are and what were their distinguishing attributes.

In Annie Fischer's case: immense, sometimes demonic virtuosity, an acute structural awareness of the music she plays and (when she's not totally over the top) a beautiful sound typical of the Russian school. She seems to have the power of Richter with the soul of Rubinstein. One of the very best interpreters of the works of Schubert. Superb Beethoven and Liszt as well.

Rosina Lhevinne: Steady fingers, glorious sound, aristocratic ideas - she is representative of the 19th century romantic piano tradition. Her records with her husband, the legendary Josef Lhevinne, are hands down THE best duo recordings I've ever heard. Her Chopin and Mozart concerti recording are equally amazing.

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #11 on: February 14, 2007, 06:11:32 AM
I used to have a crush on Hélène Grimaud and I thought her Schumann concerto was the best thing since slice bread. (Later I found that Klara Wurtz was even better). But anyway, she wrote an open letter that really spoke to me, so I'd like to share it with you guys. Here's the letter:




Music changed my life. I was quite an agitated and agitating child before I had music training. As a matter of fact, a psychologist told my parents later on that without music I could have easily become a delinquent of the worst sort!

Of all art forms, only music transcends words. It is hard to talk about music when music talks to us better than any other language. But I can tell you that music gave my life a sense of purpose and direction.

Music taught me that you should never let anyone convince you that your dreams are outlandish. Few things are more condescending, and what a tragedy it would be if you believed it. Our backgrounds and circumstances may have influenced who we are but, ultimately, we are responsible for who we choose to become, and it takes a long time to become the person you want to be. I have learned that it is not what happens to us that is important - it is what we do about it.

Studying music also taught me that you should not compare yourself to others but only to your last best effort, that you cannot get by on charm for very long, that music sharpens your senses, imagination, creativity and intuition, and that you actually have the ability and strength to keep going long after you think you can't. I have learned that difficulties and failures along the way make you stronger and that maturity does not come with how many birthdays you have celebrated but more with the experiences you have had and what you have learned from them.

Making music with others showed me that two people can look at the exact same thing and see something totally different. Music will develop your social, personal, physical and intellectual skills better than any other activities combined.

Music is about emotional communication. Give it a try and don't think you have taken the wrong road when perhaps you just have not gone far enough. After all, what is to come does not need to be discovered so much as invented.

Hélène Grimaud

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #12 on: February 14, 2007, 06:13:07 AM
Grimaud is not such a bad pianist...bit of a hottie too.  ;)

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #13 on: February 14, 2007, 06:22:35 AM
I think Mary Lou Williams was one of the most creatively interesting pianists of the twentieth century, male or female. She possessed a rhythmic delicacy of a most acute and individual kind. In addition, although having a truly phenomenal ear and memory and becoming quite famous, she seems to have been an exceptionally well balanced, modest and unselfish person, spending much time in her later years teaching and encouraging young musicians, mostly for free. The only regret is that she didn't leave us more solo recordings.
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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #14 on: February 14, 2007, 08:08:13 PM
I used to have a crush on Hélène Grimaud and I thought her Schumann concerto was the best thing since slice bread. (Later I found that Klara Wurtz was even better). But anyway, she wrote an open letter that really spoke to me, so I'd like to share it with you guys. Here's the letter:




Music changed my life. I was quite an agitated and agitating child before I had music training. As a matter of fact, a psychologist told my parents later on that without music I could have easily become a delinquent of the worst sort!

Of all art forms, only music transcends words. It is hard to talk about music when music talks to us better than any other language. But I can tell you that music gave my life a sense of purpose and direction.

Music taught me that you should never let anyone convince you that your dreams are outlandish. Few things are more condescending, and what a tragedy it would be if you believed it. Our backgrounds and circumstances may have influenced who we are but, ultimately, we are responsible for who we choose to become, and it takes a long time to become the person you want to be. I have learned that it is not what happens to us that is important - it is what we do about it.

Studying music also taught me that you should not compare yourself to others but only to your last best effort, that you cannot get by on charm for very long, that music sharpens your senses, imagination, creativity and intuition, and that you actually have the ability and strength to keep going long after you think you can't. I have learned that difficulties and failures along the way make you stronger and that maturity does not come with how many birthdays you have celebrated but more with the experiences you have had and what you have learned from them.

Making music with others showed me that two people can look at the exact same thing and see something totally different. Music will develop your social, personal, physical and intellectual skills better than any other activities combined.

Music is about emotional communication. Give it a try and don't think you have taken the wrong road when perhaps you just have not gone far enough. After all, what is to come does not need to be discovered so much as invented.

Hélène Grimaud


This is really precious and important. Thank you for sharing! And Btw I also liked Grimaud's Schumann concerto very much.

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #15 on: February 15, 2007, 06:30:08 AM
Argerich is by far me favorite living pianist. (Male, female, or any type of male.)

I second this quote. Explanation is not necessary.

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #16 on: February 15, 2007, 11:31:36 AM
Some things which may not be necessary are sometimes beneficial. thanks to all those who have shared their views of some of the top female pianists out there - I think we have all learned something through those comments.

Im very interested to hear any views, particularly those of you who are american, regarding the pianist and composer Amy Cheney-Beach She is little known in eurpose although is increasingly being recognised and honoured by retrospective recordings. I imagine there is much more source material stateside.  Would anyone care to share???

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #17 on: February 16, 2007, 06:35:28 PM

Im very interested to hear any views, particularly those of you who are american, regarding the pianist and composer Amy Cheney-Beach She is little known in eurpose although is increasingly being recognised and honoured by retrospective recordings. I imagine there is much more source material stateside.  Would anyone care to share???

In fact I've never heard about her and I'm European, Italian exactly...

What about Rosalyn Tureck? I reeeeeally like the way she plays Bach! I always listen to her recordings when I'm learning a Bach piece...

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #18 on: February 16, 2007, 11:03:08 PM
Ruth Laredo would have to be another, her scriabin was top class.  Another artists I personally love is Maria Joao Pires. such passion and musical intensity - a real sophisticated communicator.

Regarding Amy Beach this is a start (I was hoping US observers might shed more light): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Beach

Anyone know about Teressa Carreno (Ive heard she is legendary - but Ive never heard her).

Found this interesting site (might spark further discussion):https://www.pianowomen.com/today.html

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #19 on: February 17, 2007, 12:33:00 AM
What do you think of Cecile Licad?

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #20 on: February 17, 2007, 12:36:30 AM
dont know?? do you have a link?? I know cecille ousset, but I dont think thats who you are referring to is it?!?!

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #21 on: February 17, 2007, 05:09:10 PM
Grimaud is not such a bad pianist...bit of a hottie too.  ;)
you said this....and you said...wunder is suck? what kind of ears you have?
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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #22 on: March 01, 2007, 02:46:41 PM
Visual ones I would guess! Actually No I agree that Grimaud does possess an intensity particularly in her Classical era stuff and Brahms which Wunder has yet to find but Im open to them both in the future. Theyz both not bad!! ;)

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #23 on: March 01, 2007, 09:45:24 PM
Clara Haskil, Annie Fischer, Alicia de Larrocha, Felicja Blumental, Martha Argerich (at times)....

Not a fan of Angella Hewitt. She gets rather boring... sounds too much the same.. begins to sound like a baroquen record after awhile.
[lau] 10:01 pm: like in 10/4 i think those little slurs everywhere are pointless for the music, but I understand if it was for improving technique

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #24 on: March 01, 2007, 09:54:03 PM
Clara Haskil, Annie Fischer, Alicia de Larrocha, Felicja Blumental, Martha Argerich (at times)....

Not a fan of Angella Hewitt. She gets rather boring... sounds too much the same.. begins to sound like a baroquen record after awhile.

Good 1!  ;D

but ya, i kindaa leik claire huangci  :-[
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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #25 on: March 01, 2007, 09:59:41 PM
haha I still have a crush on Helene Grimaud.

I notice no one has mentioned Joyce Hatto. Her husband is taking the rap but nonetheless she has brought female pianists into disrepute  >:(
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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #26 on: March 02, 2007, 03:09:41 AM
Good 1!  ;D

true; heh I'm becoming quite the Lady Puntiful.
[lau] 10:01 pm: like in 10/4 i think those little slurs everywhere are pointless for the music, but I understand if it was for improving technique

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #27 on: March 02, 2007, 07:27:28 AM
yeah i love a hot b!tch who can play the piano. mm mm MMM.
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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #28 on: March 03, 2007, 12:04:43 AM
Regarding Amy Beach this is a start (I was hoping US observers might shed more light): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Beach
A nice recording of her romance for piano and violin here:-

https://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/topic/29/296.html

Beautiful...

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #29 on: March 03, 2007, 02:10:09 AM
Thanks Lavalse! ;) This thread wasnt really about any lurid lusting after young pretty or otherwise artists. Nor was it really designed as an Index of names - I hoped for some discussion as to who YOUR favourite women pianists are/were AND very importantly why...some qualities that they have (Musically - not interms of their physical endowment) that you admire. Thankyou to all those who have made informed contributions - keep them coming  ;D

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #30 on: March 03, 2007, 02:41:52 AM
Speaking of musical endowments, then look no farther than Myra Hess, who was especially noted for her late Beethoven sonatas and Schumann.  Noble tone and insight aren't shabby qualities.

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #31 on: March 03, 2007, 01:27:10 PM
Indeed,, I love Myra Hess.  She plays with such rhythmic clarity tooand wonderfull sense of proportion. especially in the late period Beethoven.  She looks kinda like my Grandma too!

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #32 on: March 03, 2007, 06:24:12 PM
Thoughts on Gariela Montero?
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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #33 on: March 03, 2007, 06:34:09 PM
lets also not forget yvonne loriod.
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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #34 on: March 05, 2007, 04:32:52 AM
A presence from the past is Guiomar Novaes.  Recently I heard her play a Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody (not my favorite choice of repertoire). It was not one of the well-known ones, but the tone and virtuosity blew my mind.

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #35 on: March 08, 2007, 12:48:56 PM
Maria João Pires for me. I simply love her records of Chopin's Nocturnes and Schubert's Impromptus. A huge model for me in terms of musicallity, though I think she should play some things stronger and faster. But hey, I'm just a newbie ;-)

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #36 on: March 14, 2007, 05:48:05 PM
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Anyone know about Teressa Carreno (Ive heard she is legendary - but Ive never heard her).
Teresa Carreño: Venezuelan, not only was a very acclaimed pianist, but a composer and an opera singer.

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Thoughts on Gariela Montero?
Gabriela Montero: Venezuelan, one of the very rare classical pianists able to dare to improvise on classical repertory. See
https://www.amazon.com/Bach-Beyond-Gabriela-Johann-Sebastian/dp/B000HC2PC2/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-3411314-5830260?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1173894104&sr=8-1

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Re: Women of the keyboard
Reply #37 on: March 17, 2007, 12:40:50 PM
has anyone else noted the number of latin american women who have come up...must be something in the blood...fire and passion eh!
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