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Offline kelly_kelly

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Another sonata?
on: February 16, 2007, 02:45:08 PM
I'n just finishing up Mozart K. 457, and I was wondering what I should do next. I'd like something of similar, maybe slightly greater difficulty and of a different mood and/or style.

Suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
It all happens on Discworld, where greed and ignorance influence human behavior... and perfectly ordinary people occasionally act like raving idiots.

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Offline imbetter

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #1 on: February 16, 2007, 03:24:40 PM
I'd suggest haydn
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Offline webern78

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #2 on: February 16, 2007, 03:34:50 PM
Try Haydn's Sonata in e minor (XVI-34), Clementi's sonata in g minor (from the Opus. 34) and Beethoven's Opus 10 in c minor.

Offline kelly_kelly

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #3 on: February 16, 2007, 03:50:53 PM
The Haydn seems easier than what I'm looking for. The Beethoven, although of the right difficulty, is a bit too similar to what I just finished. A recording (or even MIDI sequence) of the Clementi eludes me as of yet, so I don't know...
It all happens on Discworld, where greed and ignorance influence human behavior... and perfectly ordinary people occasionally act like raving idiots.

A world, in short, totally unlike our own.

Offline rach n bach

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #4 on: February 16, 2007, 04:12:22 PM
Motzart K330...  Will that be to easy?

Beethoven Tempest Sonata...   

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Offline webern78

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #5 on: February 16, 2007, 04:12:43 PM
The Haydn seems easier than what I'm looking for. The Beethoven, although of the right difficulty, is a bit too similar to what I just finished. A recording (or even MIDI sequence) of the Clementi eludes me as of yet, so I don't know...

I'm sorry i think i miss read your post. I thought you wanted something similar to the 457. I just woke up and i haven't had my coffee yet, have mercy.  ;D

Mmmmh, something of similar or slightly greater difficulty and with a different mood, maybe you could try Beethoven's Opus 14. I take you still want something in the high classical tradition or is style irrelevant?

Offline kelly_kelly

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #6 on: February 16, 2007, 04:31:13 PM
style doesn't matter, actually a change might be nice, but I don't think there's anything easy enough...
It all happens on Discworld, where greed and ignorance influence human behavior... and perfectly ordinary people occasionally act like raving idiots.

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #7 on: February 16, 2007, 04:32:46 PM
besides mozart, haydn is the easiest your going to get.

if your looking for somthing new you could try schubert but those arent the easiest sonatas
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Offline dnephi

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #8 on: February 16, 2007, 05:30:44 PM
You kidding imbetter?  Mozart can be very tricky!

Schubert is difficult.  An easier sonata might be Beethoven Op. 79 ;).
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Offline rach n bach

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #9 on: February 16, 2007, 08:11:44 PM
Kelly,

What else are you playing and what "level" are you at? 
It has been said that Mozart is easy for children, and hard for adults...  I recommend finding some Beethoven Sonata that you like, or even something like Mozart's Adgio in b Minor, k 540.  Maybe even some ragtime  ::)  sorry, I can't resist a little Joplin every now and then...

Good luck!
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Offline kelly_kelly

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #10 on: February 16, 2007, 08:17:16 PM
At the moment I'm, as I said, finishing the K. 457... I'm also finishing Schubert 90-3. Don't know about levels, but that should give you an idea.
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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #11 on: February 16, 2007, 09:18:09 PM
Ah, Shubert...  love that piece...  you might like his op114 no2.

If you can play his 90-3 comforably, you should really take a look at his sonatas, I think (if you have a teacher) you could handle one of them.  Mozart's D major Rondo K 485 (i think) is also nice...  Maybe Beethoven's Patheique?

You should really pick up some lighter, shorter pieces if this is all you are playing...

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Offline thalbergmad

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #12 on: February 16, 2007, 09:19:13 PM
Some of the Clementi Sonatas are georgous as are the sonatas of Field.

Not all require virtuoso technique.

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Offline kelly_kelly

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #13 on: February 16, 2007, 09:24:46 PM
Ah, Shubert...  love that piece...  you might like his op114 no2.

If you can play his 90-3 comforably, you should really take a look at his sonatas, I think (if you have a teacher) you could handle one of them.  Mozart's D major Rondo K 485 (i think) is also nice...  Maybe Beethoven's Patheique?

You should really pick up some lighter, shorter pieces if this is all you are playing...

RnB

I wish I could do more, but high school... :P It's all I can do to practice for half an hour every day (assuming a minimum of 4 hours of sleep). But short pieces don't satisfy me as much.
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Offline rach n bach

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #14 on: February 16, 2007, 09:30:49 PM
Your telling me... I'm graduating this year, so I have plenty on my plate, but I always set aside a minimum of 75 min a day... hard work though...   :P

I second thal's suggestions.

Really, just try one or two Rachmanninov preludes... they help sooth the soul.

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Offline gonzalo

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #15 on: February 16, 2007, 10:45:57 PM
Why not go not for obscure but also unusual  sonatas from women composers of the classical period? Here are a few (you can listen to excerpts and see sample scores here:
https://www.hildegard.com/ )


Maria Teresa Agenesi- Pinottini (1720 – 1795) – Sonata in G.
Marianna D’Áuembrugg (1768 - ?) – Sonata for pianoforte (this is a real gem).
Elisabeth Billington (1765 - 1818) Sonata op. 2 no. 6
Anna Bon (1740 - ?) Six sonatas for keyboard.
Sophia Dussek (1775 - 1847) Sonata for pianoforte. (Sophie was the Italian wife of Jan Ladislav Dussek, in case you are wondering).
Marianna von Martines (1744 – 1812) – She was a pupil of Haydn - 3 sonatas (E, A and G).
Juliane Benda Reichardt (1752 – 1783) – Klavier sonata

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #16 on: February 17, 2007, 01:08:17 AM
Schubert E major sonata would be a nice change for you and quite a challenge!

Offline kelly_kelly

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #17 on: February 17, 2007, 05:55:41 PM
Is this is the one you mean? (I wasn't sure because it said "fragment")
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Offline pianogeek_cz

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #18 on: February 17, 2007, 07:51:34 PM
I would second the already mentioned Beethoven op. 79, possibly op. 90, too...

But what about the Grieg sonata?  :D
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Offline rach n bach

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #19 on: February 17, 2007, 10:14:16 PM
Is this is the one you mean? (I wasn't sure because it said "fragment")

I just scanned through my set of Shubert's sonatas... and that's the only in in E major...

I personally love the one in b flat (it's the one on the Sheet music archive.)  You should aslo look at a few of his other improptus, like op142 no4, great stuff.   :)

Bah, you really have to many options now...

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Re: Another sonata?
Reply #20 on: February 17, 2007, 11:05:01 PM
I then recommend D958 by Schubert ;).
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