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Not the five-year monster, sine I'm applying for a conservatory next year, so it's pretty much pointless to plan repertoire beyond that point...

Any (at least potentially :P) constructive comments are welcome.

The whole set is marked by three deadlines - recitals/auditions. Each of them should be roughly 45-60 minutes (more won't hurt).

BEEP, BLEEEEEP and variations mark the BIG PROJECT of the set: the piece(s) that are the really challenging parts. I try to work on max. two things like these (and preferably overlap them, so that I'm finishing one and starting the other one). I try to stick to a rule of thumb that what won't get done in five months is too difficult, but it's hard to estimate.

The rest is supposed to be spread from Half an hour of work to Several months of work - basically stuff I really like and is not too difficult. The idea is obvious - push the limits and, at the same time, expand in the pool of manageable difficulty. The typical repertoire pyramid.

Just to mention chamber music projects: Mozart piano quartet K478 in g minor, Rachmaninoff first piano trio (a semi-bleeep, since there's lots of time). Accompanying jobs I don't mention at all, they're not worth it and I'm lazy  ;D

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First deadline: end of March (during April, I should be doing my first recital - woohoo!)
Programme (not nescessarily in this order):
Bach 2-part inventions: nos. 2, 6, 10, 13, possibly 1 (done)
Mozart Sonata K330 (done)
Chopin - a couple of preludes (several slower and less demanding ones and no. 24) (working on it)
Chopin - Ballade no. 1 (working on it) BLEEEP!
Chopin - etude op. 10 no. 12 (do-o-one, needs dust brushed off)
Rachmaninoff - preludes op. 3 no. 2, op. 23 no. 5 (working on it, rather done)
Dvorak - Poetic Mood op. 85 no. 3 (rather done)
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(Possibly 8) ) encore: J. Jezek - Bugatti step (working on it)

Optional: several Prokofiev Fugitive Visions (1, 2, 5... 8?)

TO DEADLINE 1: the most appreciated comments are how to order the heap. I'm open to all crazy suggestions. However, comments along the lines of This is boring, do something else are pointless at this stage.

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Second deadline: end of August (a musical summer camp/masterclass, a recital might - will - follow)
Intended programme:
Bach some 3-part inventions, Italian concerto 3rd movement (hee hee)
Beethoven sonata op. 79
Prokofiev - sonata no. 3 BLEEEEEP!
Dvorak - some more Poetic Moods (possibly nos. 12 and 13)
Some impressionism - Ravel? (nothing too difficult, not above roughly level 8 ABRSM) Possibly Debussy - Children's corner...
Something Romantic - possibly Brahms Scherzo op. 4... BLEEP!
Possibly Chopet 10/1
Some Rachmaninoff - maybe a Moment Musicaux (NOT 4 or 6, the tip is no. 3), maybe some of op. 3 to add to the prelude (Polichinelle?), maybe a prelude (32-10? 23-4?), maybe an Etude-Tableaux (33-7, 33-4, 39-4). I'd prefer the Etude BEEP*, but I'm open to suggestions.

*Note: only one of the two latter B(L)EEPs. If I go for an Etude-Tableaux, then the Brahms Scherzo is written off and replaced maybe by Schubert op. 90 impromptus (no. 1? no. 2? no. 4? Done no. 3 already...).

TO DEADLINE TWO: At this stage, it's more like Help me build a nice programme which might include the stuff suggested above. I, however, won't retreat from the Prokofiev, something by Rach and the Italian concerto movement (my precioussss! 8) ).

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And now....

The ultimate goal is the conservatory audition. The requirements are (excluding scales and arpeggios, which I have to learn all... *sigh*)
1) Bach - 2 2- or 3-part inventions, anything above that level (P&F etc.) is not frowned upon.
2) Etudes - Czerny somethings (op. 740), Cramer wossnames.
3) Classical - fast movement from a sonata
4) Romantic - something roughly 5-10 minutes
5) Modern - whatever. Basically just to show that you have a clue about the style(s).

Now, since I can confidently say that I'm -already- at and beyond the required level, I'll be trying to get into the second year. On a side note, even if I don't make it and land in the first year, these goals should let me float through that year quite smoothly. That means:

1) Bach - a P&F or, possibly,  3rd movement of Italian Concerto and a slower 3-part invention (c minor?)
2) Etudes - One Chopet (if I find myself running out of time, I might polish the good old 10/12, but I'd mighty prefer something else, possibly 10/1 - yeh, ambitious :P ) one Rach etude (33-7? 33-4? 39-4? Ideas?  :) ), or possibly a Scriabin etude (instead of one of them, recommendations?)
3) Classical - oh, whatever. Possibly 1st mov. of Mozart K330 (completed the sonata this January), Beethoven op. 79 1st mov., Beethoven op. 90 1st mov., Mozart K332 3rd mov., the choice is biiiig.
4) Romantic - lots of choice again. I'm working on the first Chopin Ballade nowadays, but that's just a last resort (come on, they've heard it anyway hundreds of times and I still have a year to prepare...) Possibly a Rach prelude if I go for a Scriabin etude (even if I go for Rach... could work anyway... the professor to whose class I'd like to get to AND I've already made minor arrangements to get to, like contacted him and had a consultation and am going to have more consultations, like next monday - hee hee), I'm thinking along the lines of 32-10.
5) Modern - The plan is Prokofiev 3rd sonata. The plan might not work, it's really big for me. But then there's Bugatti Step by Jaroslav Jezek backing it up. Or John Cage 4'33 ;D ;D

TO DEADLINE THREE: dtto as D.2, plus general tips for auditions welcome. Do you think I should be ambitious? Or even -as ambitious- as I've written above?

Again, anything you find worth criticism, evaluation, comments - please yourself. I'm ready to take the blows and bows.  ;D

Thanks!
Be'ein Tachbulot Yipol Am Veteshua Berov Yoetz (Without cunning a nation shall fall,  Salvation Come By Many Good Counsels)

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Re: Plaaaan! (Wow, it's been long since the last one showed up...)
Reply #1 on: February 17, 2007, 09:14:39 PM
hey jan ;)

wasn't here for a while..hehe, i see auditions coming up *eyebrow*

i was going to comment first deadline, but then saw warning lol. generally i think you're playing stuff below your level, from that what i've heard on your recording,you can do much more. as for deadline 1, i'd play bach and mozart, possibly dvorak (never heard of it, so can't tell much), - intermission- rachmaninov, chopin. end with ballade and save revolutionary for an encore. people like it and it will be effective in your version ;)
oh btw, since this bloody tendonitis in right hand, i'm going to have some nice flirty time with revolutionary lol.

2nd deadline, i'd do whole italian concerto,not just 3rd mvt. there is big leap from op79 beeth and prokofiev 3rd..you might consider more mature beeth?
i'd work on chopin 10/1, but not as recital repertoire, unless you are 200% sure with it. as for ravel, my system doen't work on abrsm thingys so can't say what grade 8 actually is, but his sonatine is one of easier ones. well, with ravel there's no easy music lol but you get the point. :P
something romantic? what about brahms ballades? my friend plays 4 of them, great music, and apart from g-minor one, rarely played.
rachmaninov, if you want short, showy piece, easy, take a look on humoresque. i'm pairing it with slow g-minor etude op33.

greetings!
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Re: Plaaaan! (Wow, it's been long since the last one showed up...)
Reply #2 on: February 18, 2007, 09:42:37 AM
'allo, Anna!  ;)

I was thinking whether you perhaps disappeared á la Danyal... Glad to see you didn't.

Hee hee... I suppose I should've put the warning -above- the list...  ::) Anyway, the problem of the program seems to be the fact that there are too many pieces which are great to end with... Ballade, Rach 23-5, Revolutionary, Prelude 24... Made me consider the option to shove not composer-blocks around, but play with ordering the single pieces as well. Revolutionary makes a good encore, yes. I've also thought about putting it right after the intermission, so as to capture attention right away, making the second half Revolutionary-Preludes-Ballade-Rach... I intended the Jezek for an encore since it's a flashy, jazzy, jumpy piece that makes people smile, not like the Revolutionary, which conjures up Wows and makes hair stand... Dunno. Thanks for the suggestions!

*shrugs* Possibly complete Italian, but that would mean that I'll manage just one three-part invention, if any... Though it's an option, yes. Same with choosing an easier Beethoven: give me some rest...  ;D I'll also consider op. 78...

(Actually, I'm well aware that I'm choosing stuff below my level - I just couldn't manage time-wise to do 60 mins of rather challenging stuff in four months!  ;) )

Ravel Sonatine? Hmmm... downloaded the score, can't tell much from it... The third part might be a pain in the arse...
The Brahms ballades? Well, since Etudes has suggested it as well, I'm more and more inclined to try them... Will have to consult with my teacher, though (as with everything).
LOL The Rach choice is just too damn huuuge...

Sorry to hear about your tendonitis... If you need anything to the 10/12, feel free to ask.  8)

Bbyes!  :)
Be'ein Tachbulot Yipol Am Veteshua Berov Yoetz (Without cunning a nation shall fall,  Salvation Come By Many Good Counsels)

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Re: Plaaaan! (Wow, it's been long since the last one showed up...)
Reply #3 on: February 19, 2007, 04:11:10 PM
Messiaen Vingt Regardes No. 1.

Or #6 8)
For us musicians, the music of Beethoven is the pillar of fire and cloud of mist which guided the Israelites through the desert.  (Roughly quoted, Franz Liszt.)
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