sorabji fuga 3

[fyrexia]

well my friend just picked the easiest part of the opus.clavicembalisticum.
the fuga 3 triplex (dux-primus) is the easiest. quite long and all.
i was thinking about a future recording maybe.... maybe some one of you has played it or heard  and might want to share some opinion .
what do you thing about it? shall i make or not a recording of this fuga?

Cheers

Jose

[jre58591]

yes please do. id appreciate this and herma. thanks.

[opusclavicem]

Do you know where I can get the sheet music?  If you can send it to me email thinknimpa@yahoo.com 

[soliloquy]

I didn't know you had an interest in Sorabji, sensei Yuji Takahashi.

[retrouvailles]

Alistair wouldn't appreciate it if you requested free sheet music to Sorabji's music, so no, I won't send it to you.

[ahinton]

Alistair wouldn't appreciate it if you requested free sheet music to Sorabji's music, so no, I won't send it to you.

No, he wouldn't, but he will, however, send a hard copy to you himself if it is ordered in the usual way from The Sorabji Archive by email on sorabji-archive@lineone.net; details are on our website at www.sorabji-archive.co.uk. The formats in which we supply this work are copies of
(a) the composer's original ms. and
(b) the publication + handwritten corrections by the composer + a handwritten analysis by the composer taken from the manuscript.

Please bear in mind, however, that our office will be closed from tomorrow until 20 October and that there is presently a postal strike scheduled for tomorrow in UK, so it will unfortunaely not be possible to send out a copy until our office reopens.

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

Why not buy an original. There is one available at Decorum Books and is only $950.

Bargain.

Thal

[ahinton]

Why not buy an original. There is one available at Decorum Books and is only $950.

Bargain.

Thal

These things are very rare - especially the limited edition ones on handmade Whatman paper (of which there are just 23 in the case of OC, two of which are here in any case) - but not only is there is no need to purchase such a thing in order to obtain the text, it will be textually even more defective than what we supply which, as I mentioned previously, includes many corrections in the composer's hand as well as his handwritten analysis and is therefore much better value at £60 inclusive of shipping within UK (rather more if airmailed oversaes).

Best,

Alistair

[opusclavicem]

No, he wouldn't, but he will, however, send a hard copy to you himself if it is ordered in the usual way from The Sorabji Archive by email on sorabji-archive@lineone.net; details are on our website at www.sorabji-archive.co.uk. The formats in which we supply this work are copies of
(a) the composer's original ms. and
(b) the publication + handwritten corrections by the composer + a handwritten analysis by the composer taken from the manuscript.

Please bear in mind, however, that our office will be closed from tomorrow until 20 October and that there is presently a postal strike scheduled for tomorrow in UK, so it will unfortunaely not be possible to send out a copy until our office reopens.


Best,

Alistair

Yes I know. I emailed (him,you??) sorabji-archive already. (him,you,they?) whoever didn't email me back.

[ahinton]

Yes I know. I emailed (him,you??) sorabji-archive already. (him,you,they?) whoever didn't email me back.

We always respond to email enquiries that we receive; I do not know who you are, but we have no unanswered email enquiries on our files so can assume only that we did not receive yours. Please try again and, as long as you do so within the next few hours, we will respond as long as we do actually receive it! I am sorry that we won't be able to do more than that right now, for the reasons already given above.

Best,

Alistair

[opusclavicem]

We always respond to email enquiries that we receive; I do not know who you are, but we have no unanswered email enquiries on our files so can assume only that we did not receive yours. Please try again and, as long as you do so within the next few hours, we will respond as long as we do actually receive it! I am sorry that we won't be able to do more than that right now, for the reasons already given above.

Best,

Alistair

Okay I tried again. hope it works.

[ahinton]

Okay I tried again. hope it works.

It did indeed, thanks - and I have replied to you already.

Best,

Alistair

[viking]

Why not buy an original. There is one available at Decorum Books and is only $950.

Bargain.

Thal

Wow, what a good idea.  Can you give me a little more information?  Do they have a website?  Phone number?  I'm hugely into antiques...

[thalbergmad]

https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=sorabji&sortby=1&x=49&y=8

[retrouvailles]

Jesus Christ, that's an expensive site.

[thalbergmad]

It is indeed old chap, as my visa bill clearly demonstrates. I think that antique booksellers are aware of the interest in Sorabji and have priced their scores accordingly.

Thankfully, a similar interest does not exist for the excellent German composer, Joseph Woelfl. I was able to purchase one of his piano concerto's for only $80. Regretfully, it was about as delicate as 3,000 year old papyrus.

Thal

[opusclavicem]

GUESS WHAT EVEREYBODY!!!!!ITS NOT $950.its $943.80plus shipping which costs 5 dollars so  it sums up to be $948.80.  Hey. Its cheeper.

[thalbergmad]

Indeed, but only if you are in the UK.

Thal

[indutrial]

I would never throw money away like that. Needle-dicked antiquarian book collectors can go f**k themselves. Thank heavens for inter-library loaning.

[retrouvailles]

Amen to that. I have saved so much money thanks to interlibrary loans. Hell, if it weren't for that, I wouldn't be able to get the performance materials for Arensky's Fantasia, Op. 48, which I will be playing in a month.

[opusclavicem]

This is especially to someone who knows a lot about Sorabji. Why did he state something about eternal damnation in the front of Opus Clavicembalitsicum. Does that mean hes evil or his 2 friends.

[indutrial]

The dedication has two components. Read it more carefully. To me, it sounds like he's condemning a number of people in the music world whose mass influence irritates him. He seems to distrust the public's taste on this occasion, which in the 1930s, probably would make a lot of sense. It probably would make sense today too. Though, I could be completely wrong about this.

[opusclavicem]

The dedication has two components. Read it more carefully. To me, it sounds like he's condemning a number of people in the music world whose mass influence irritates him. He seems to distrust the public's taste on this occasion, which in the 1930s, probably would make a lot of sense. It probably would make sense today too. Though, I could be completely wrong about this.

To tell you the truth, I don't understand any of Sorabji's quotes.

[ahinton]

The quote there is pretty much self-explanatory, I would think, except, perhaps, that it may not necessarily be immediately clear to everyone reading it that the purpose of his use of the phrase "e duobus unus" (misprintd in the published score as "e duobus unum") was to illustrate that the work had but one dedicatee, not two - his friend the Scots poet who wrote under the name of Hugh MacDiarmid but whose real name was Christopher Murray Grieve.

His general distrust of public taste may well be enshrined in that dedication, yet accounts that I have heard and read suggest that, when the composer gave the work its world première in Glasgow, Scotland in December 1930, he succeeded in holding the audience's attention throughout and, many years later, he admitted to me that, on the four occasions when he played his music in Scotland (OC's première being the second of these), he found the audiences more engaged and sympathetic than he had expected.

Best,

Alistair

[opusclavicem]

The quote there is pretty much slf-explanatory, I would think, except, perhaps, that it may not necessarily be immediately clear to everyone reading it that the purpose of his use of the phrase "e duobus unus" (misprintd in the published score as "e duobus unum") was to illustrate that the work had but one dedicatee, not two - his friend the Scots poet who wrote under the name of Hugh MacDiarmid but whose real name was Christopher Murray Grieve.

His general distrust of public taste may well be enshrined in that dedication, yet accounts that I have heard and read suggest that, when the composer gave the work its world première in Glasgow, Scotland in December 1930, he succeeded in holding the audience's attention throughout and, many years later, he admitted to me that, on the four occasions when he played his music in Scotland (OC's première being the4 second of these), he found the audiences more engaged and sympathetic than he had expected.

Best,

Alistair

2 quick questions.

1. How many beats are in each measure for the OC?

2. How are we supposed to perform in public if Sorabji isn't alive anymore? Aren't we supposed to get permission?

[ahinton]

2 quick questions.

1. How many beats are in each measure for the OC?

Work that out for yourself from the score.

2. How are we supposed to perform in public if Sorabji isn't alive anymore? Aren't we supposed to get permission?

No "if" about Sorabji being alive; he died in 1988. Whoever "we" may be does not need any "permission" - only the ability and the desire to do it!

P.S. - anyone who really does not know the (many) answers to 1. probably need not worry about 2...

Best,

Alistair