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Offline imbetter

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Starting my first concerto, which one?
on: March 20, 2007, 01:24:08 AM
After I finish my current rep, my teacher said I'm going to start working on a concerto. I'm having immense trouble deciding which one. I think because there are so many  :)

I want something that will provide a challenge, but nothing too hard that's beyond my capability.

My favorite concerto is the Schumann concerto but it might be a little hard for my first concerto.

What do you guys think?

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Re: Starting my first concerto, which one?
Reply #1 on: March 20, 2007, 02:36:12 AM
Having seen that you have asked for the Scriabin concerto in the Sheet Music Requests section, let me emphasize that it is on a completely different level than Schumann; just a warning.

What are you looking for? Classical? Romantic? Anything? Having never done a concerto, besides the Bach D minor, I'm not as well poised to answer your question as others will no doubt be, but I can make a few small suggestions:

If Romantic, Grieg. Usually a good starter concerto. Probably at your level if you're learning Chopin Ballade 1.

If Classical, maybe Beethoven 2. It's not as often chosen as Beethoven 1, the usual beginner's Classical concerto, and I happen to like it more.

Phil

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Re: Starting my first concerto, which one?
Reply #2 on: March 20, 2007, 04:59:12 AM
Mendelssohn 1.

Was supposed to be my first ever concerto, but I went with Beethoven 1 instead because it looked easier to learn...I regret it now. The Mendelssohn is a beautiful concerto.

Rachmaninoff 1.

Not sure how proficient you are technically, but I managed to play Rach 1 in a masterclass before I thought I was ready to learn Chopin's Ballade 1. I never particularly enjoy learning the notes of this one...Rach 2 is much easier in that respect.

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Re: Starting my first concerto, which one?
Reply #3 on: March 21, 2007, 12:47:14 AM
Having seen that you have asked for the Scriabin concerto in the Sheet Music Requests section, let me emphasize that it is on a completely different level than Schumann; just a warning.

What are you looking for? Classical? Romantic? Anything? Having never done a concerto, besides the Bach D minor, I'm not as well poised to answer your question as others will no doubt be, but I can make a few small suggestions:

If Romantic, Grieg. Usually a good starter concerto. Probably at your level if you're learning Chopin Ballade 1.

If Classical, maybe Beethoven 2. It's not as often chosen as Beethoven 1, the usual beginner's Classical concerto, and I happen to like it more.

Phil

are you really sure the g minor ballade is harder than the grieg concerto?

Mendelssohn 1.

Was supposed to be my first ever concerto, but I went with Beethoven 1 instead because it looked easier to learn...I regret it now. The Mendelssohn is a beautiful concerto.

Rachmaninoff 1.

Not sure how proficient you are technically, but I managed to play Rach 1 in a masterclass before I thought I was ready to learn Chopin's Ballade 1. I never particularly enjoy learning the notes of this one...Rach 2 is much easier in that respect.

I dont think I'll do Rach one. Rach 2 might be a little hard.

Mendelssohn 1 is definatly a possility I'll think about that one along with the grieg concerto.
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Re: Starting my first concerto, which one?
Reply #4 on: March 21, 2007, 01:03:14 AM
are you really sure the g minor ballade is harder than the grieg concerto?


No. As I said before, I haven't one iota of experience in this sort of thing, and I've not played either piece. But at least I can call my own bullshit.  ;)

Grieg just makes a good entrance into the category of works, that's all. Mendelssohn 1 is a good one, too, I second that.

Phil

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Re: Starting my first concerto, which one?
Reply #5 on: March 21, 2007, 12:04:19 PM
I would recommend a concerto by Bach or Mozart.
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Re: Starting my first concerto, which one?
Reply #6 on: March 21, 2007, 03:50:14 PM

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Re: Starting my first concerto, which one?
Reply #7 on: March 22, 2007, 09:18:12 AM
I'd recommend the Haydn Piano Concerto in D Major
I am learning that as my first concerto now.
Bach - Partita No.2
Scriabin - Etude 8/12
Debussy - L'isle Joyeuse
Liszt - Un Sospiro

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Prokofiev - Toccata

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Re: Starting my first concerto, which one?
Reply #8 on: March 22, 2007, 08:31:29 PM
  Learn a Mozart piano concerto, contrary to popular belief, young people play mozart better than adults. I've heard a 7 year old girl play Mozart Coronation perfectly (on youtub).
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Re: Starting my first concerto, which one?
Reply #9 on: March 23, 2007, 09:14:25 AM
If the Schumann concerto is a little hard for you to start as your first concerto, then stay away from any of the Rach concertos for now.  As a side note to another post.... I wouldn't say Rach 2 is MUCH easier than ANYTHING.  ;)  In fact, major portions of the Rach 2 are easily on the Rach 3 level technically.
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Re: Starting my first concerto, which one?
Reply #10 on: March 23, 2007, 11:30:39 AM
I'd recommend the Haydn Piano Concerto in D Major
I am learning that as my first concerto now.
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too easy

  Learn a Mozart piano concerto, contrary to popular belief, young people play mozart better than adults. I've heard a 7 year old girl play Mozart Coronation perfectly (on youtub).

I was considering that, acctualy
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Re: Starting my first concerto, which one?
Reply #11 on: March 23, 2007, 12:44:45 PM
I recommend Choral Fantasy, by Beethoven.

Dan
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Re: Starting my first concerto, which one?
Reply #12 on: March 23, 2007, 08:16:28 PM
i've decided, mendelssohns first. I already printed it out and started it. I think i have a feel for it im doing good.
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