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Offline henrah

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Richter's 10/4 - sped up?
on: March 20, 2007, 10:27:33 PM
Now don't jump down my throat quite yet!


Look at the speed the hanky is thrown and when it opens up. The way it stops opening quite suddenly. Also, at the end RH rolled chords, when Richter's hand leaves the piano, they move too fast; however I am not so sure about this last observation after mimicing the movement.


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Re: Richter's 10/4 - sped up?
Reply #1 on: March 20, 2007, 10:33:00 PM
No, but that speed is achievable by others.
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Re: Richter's 10/4 - sped up?
Reply #2 on: March 20, 2007, 10:38:03 PM
I don't doubt that it's possible to play at this speed, but I do doubt that the Richter video isn't sped up. I've watched the beginning (the hanky throw) many, many times, and the way the hanky unravels and how suddenly it stops seems to me that it's sped up.

Take another look, you might be surprised ;)
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Re: Richter's 10/4 - sped up?
Reply #3 on: March 20, 2007, 11:34:24 PM
They recorded differently in those days. Look at Cziffra video's, his hands are transparent at some points.

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Re: Richter's 10/4 - sped up?
Reply #4 on: March 21, 2007, 04:52:52 AM
Yet Richter's hands aren't. This is another evident point towards it being sped up. Cziffra's hands being transparent some of the time (when he plays fast) is due to the absorbtion time of the film, i.e. how quickly the light can be processed onto a frame. At times, there is still light being absorbed from the background as Cziffra's hands whizz past.

This is not evident in Richter's video. It is very crisp and fine. Even when there is motion blur, it's not as obvious as one would expect from film cameras at that time.
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