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Topic: Ginastera Danzas Argentinas No 3 Danza del gaucho matrero  (Read 12160 times)

Offline electrodoc

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Many problems with this one!

First, the rhythms. Very tricky!
Second, get it up to a reasonable tempo.
The main melodic theme is also quite difficult.
Finally, for me at least, the stamina required to keep going to the end. I found it quite tiring to play. I think that the main problem is to keep the wrists and forearm relaxed.

Can anyone help with the translation of the titles? My Catalan is somewhat lacking!

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Re: Ginastera Danzas Argentinas No 3 Danza del gaucho matrero
Reply #1 on: April 02, 2007, 04:45:27 AM
Hey!  Sry havn't been able to dl the files, my internet is being really crappy today...

But anyways, I [think] the first dance is the "dance of the old cowherd", then the second is something about a maiden, or young girl dont quite remember, but the third if I remember correctly is "dance of the artful herdsman"... If I'm completely wrong, someone please correct me, but I think that's wht those two are at least.

I'm playing these pieces too, took a while to get the third one consistently, very tiring and keeping the melody standing out with the everchanging rhythms is extremely difficult.

I'll try again to listen tomorrow  ;)
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Re: Ginastera Danzas Argentinas No 3 Danza del gaucho matrero
Reply #2 on: April 02, 2007, 08:32:52 AM
If No1 is the Dance of the Old Cowherd then what would a Young Cowherd be like?

I translated the last one as The Dance of the Drunken Cowboy.

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Re: Ginastera Danzas Argentinas No 3 Danza del gaucho matrero
Reply #3 on: April 02, 2007, 08:39:59 AM
This is what I have from the 5 Browns disk...

I: Danza del viejo boyero (Dance of the Old Cowherd), Alberto Ginastera, Danzas Argentinas Op. 2

II: Danza de la moza donosa (Dance of the Delightful Young Girl), Alberto Ginastera, Danzas Argentinas Op. 2

III: Danza del gaucho matrero (Dance of the Artful Herdsman), Alberto Ginastera, Danzas Argentinas Op. 2

Hope that helps!

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Offline electrodoc

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Re: Ginastera Danzas Argentinas No 3 Danza del gaucho matrero
Reply #4 on: April 02, 2007, 12:45:49 PM
Thanks for help in translation. Someone on another site has pointed out that there is a dofference between Castilian and Spanish and that the second dance should more correctly be the Dancing Young Girl. It seems that it was inspired by seeing a young girl freely dancing on the mountainside with her skirts flairing out around her. To me this seems a more appropriate image for the music. I wonder what others think.

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Re: Ginastera Danzas Argentinas No 3 Danza del gaucho matrero
Reply #5 on: April 22, 2007, 06:10:23 AM
Hi,

I've played this piece for over a year and in a competition (still yet to get my evaluation) and in a few recitals. While I still have yet to perfect my own playing, I think I have some constructive criticism for your playing. The triplets should sound more rhythmic and fast. It should sound fast and have certain sway to it. It should be fast, light, but the first note of each measure should be slightly accented to give it that "sway".

Note-wise, it could be cleaner and more accurate. Every note should be detached. There is not one legato in the entire piece. Could be a little faster.

Just needs more work. :)
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