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Offline mikey6

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The phonetic spelling sentence association game
on: April 16, 2007, 12:41:57 AM
I thort this mite b fun.  I'll start -

hoo likes chiken?
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Re: The phonetic spelling sentence association game
Reply #1 on: April 16, 2007, 10:44:53 AM
people are under the impression that phonetic spelling has no rules.  actually phonetic spelling HAS rules and spelling non-phonetically - or aurally - is what you are referring to.  it is much like learning piano by rote.  this is often done in kindergarten.  but, what if children actually learned and practiced the phonetic sounds AND the rules that go with phonetic spelling (which seem to have been lost from schools since the 1930's). 





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Re: The phonetic spelling sentence association game
Reply #2 on: April 16, 2007, 10:46:46 AM
*dragging people down and beating them on their level - to me, indicates that druggies and drop-outs - when feeling superior by money alone - cannot fix the innate problems they have for not listening in school (or being taught sight reading/aural spelling alone).  this will identify them and weed them out of high paying jobs and reduce them to activity which better suits non-spelling.

*i realize this was a humor thread - but this has gone on so long that some children/people don't even know some of the correct spellings for words anymore and simply don't care.

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Re: The phonetic spelling sentence association game
Reply #3 on: April 16, 2007, 03:10:51 PM
I agree with Pianistimo on her concern for correct spelling. It is a major problem over here too.
However, I should say I find English one of the worst languages to play this game, because many pure vowel sounds have to be translated to double letters.

For instance, in the first post, 'hoo' and 'chiken' should indeed be 'cheeken (an?)'. 'chiken' should be read with an 'i' like in 'eye'.

And many times, the vowels we actually see in that spelling have nothing to do with English spelling. Otherwise, how do you explain to me that 'da' stands for 'the'? I guess the 'a' letter seldom has a sound like the 'e' in 'the'. In isolation, I think, it is more like the 'ay' in 'bay'.

Curse the great vowel shift

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Re: The phonetic spelling sentence association game
Reply #4 on: April 16, 2007, 04:01:55 PM
our vowels often have several different sounds.  for instance, my daughter's name is 'Ivana.'  now, in russian - this is probably the common interpretation for i's in english - (to have long-E sound -  ee-vah-nah).  but, we usually use short 'i' sound for words/names that begin with I.   for instance, Inga.  and, most words that start with i :  if, in, is, igloo, ignore, ignite....

one rule that most people don't know about is that only the vowels 'e' and 'i' are used with the letter K start.  :  kid, kit, Ken, keg.   if you want to have a LONG I sound - add an 'e' to the end of the word:  kite.  (1. place an X under the middle vowel   2. place an x under the last vowel 'e' = now, draw a straight line through the vowel 'e'  3. the 'e' has been made silent...it will say nothing...but - it has a job to do.  4. after you draw a line through the last e - go back to the first vowel and mark it LONG sound...practice on words like 'glade' or 'scrape').


with the consonant 'c' - if you are in a spelling bee - you will learn that if you hear the sound of 'A' 'O' or 'U' - the word will start with the letter 'c' - usually.

digraphs (like CH or CK - as found in the word 'chicken') are 2 consonants that are held together by an arc...and the letters have ONLY one sound - but their sounds have already been used bythe consonants F, N, R, and K.

PH    GN     KN    CK    WR

**when the consonants L R S are added to the digraph 'ch', the 'ch' (sometimes) has the sound of 'kuh.' 

1. CH + L = CHL (draw an arc under all three letters)/KL = chloride, chlorine, chlorate

2. CH + R = CHR/KR = chrome, chromate, chromo

3.  S+ CH= SCH/SK = scheme and school. 


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Re: The phonetic spelling sentence association game
Reply #5 on: April 16, 2007, 04:08:50 PM
all this said - there are a lot of companies that use bad spelling as some sort of advertisement that they are 'cool.'  chikn - the spelling at chick-filet.  basically, just drop the vowels in everything.

i wnt to tll u abt splling.

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Re: The phonetic spelling sentence association game
Reply #6 on: April 16, 2007, 04:25:48 PM
i wnt to tll u abt splling.
I wnt to tll u abt cptl lttrs...

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Re: The phonetic spelling sentence association game
Reply #7 on: April 16, 2007, 10:09:21 PM
I thort this mite b fun.  I'll start -

hoo likes chiken?

okay, no more serious talk!! The only rule--make your spelling humorous!!

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Re: The phonetic spelling sentence association game
Reply #8 on: April 17, 2007, 12:24:05 AM
I woz hope-ing 4 a game, not a spelling lecchure! >:(
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Re: The phonetic spelling sentence association game
Reply #9 on: April 17, 2007, 01:15:59 AM
furgit da lecktur.  ay hAte chikun.  ouh look.  etz aleve.  aleve chikun. 

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Re: The phonetic spelling sentence association game
Reply #10 on: April 17, 2007, 01:53:29 PM
eye ad chuckin nuudel zoup todai
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Re: The phonetic spelling sentence association game
Reply #11 on: April 18, 2007, 01:16:50 AM
eye had chicken shnitsel last nite.
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Re: The phonetic spelling sentence association game
Reply #12 on: April 18, 2007, 03:45:45 PM
uh hoarse, uh hoarse, m'eye kingdumb four uh hoarse
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Re: The phonetic spelling sentence association game
Reply #13 on: May 05, 2007, 05:55:28 AM
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