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Offline ronde_des_sylphes

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The quietest pianist
on: April 18, 2007, 09:22:34 AM
Something a little different..

Who do you think was the pianist who was capable of the quietest and most delicate playing?

Historically, I suppose one must suggest Chopin, but of course none of us heard him..

I'll suggest Michelangeli and Thibaudet for starters. On occasion, Cziffra.
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Re: The quietest pianist
Reply #1 on: April 18, 2007, 09:41:17 AM
jean sibelius's night playing?

cassedesus was pretty good with some of those mozart cadenzas.  anyone who can play faure nocturnes and cause someone to fall asleep like they were on some kind of yacht in the sun.

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Re: The quietest pianist
Reply #2 on: April 18, 2007, 09:47:07 AM
Håkon Austbø. He plays chords like you barely hear them, but still you feel the presence and articulation of every tone.
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Re: The quietest pianist
Reply #3 on: April 18, 2007, 10:45:50 AM
Technically, the FASTEST pianist is also the quietest pianist also.

Anyone, within reason, can control their sound in slow passages.

Control of pianissimo evenness in passages of demanding velocity, the dexterity of the fingers is of paramount importance - in conjunction with control.
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Re: The quietest pianist
Reply #4 on: April 18, 2007, 02:18:13 PM
This is a very difficult question to answer because there are many factors that are involved when playing quietly.

The first and most important quality is the choice of instrument.  Obviously a 9 foot concert grand is capable of producing huge sounds.  Where as a smaller grand could produce softer tones due to the shorter length of strings.

The next factor would be where one would be seated in a concert hall.  Are you close to the piano, behind the piano (facing the opposite side to the lid)?

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Re: The quietest pianist
Reply #5 on: April 18, 2007, 03:11:30 PM
This is a very difficult question to answer because there are many factors that are involved when playing quietly.

The first and most important quality is the choice of instrument.  Obviously a 9 foot concert grand is capable of producing huge sounds.  Where as a smaller grand could produce softer tones due to the shorter length of strings.

The next factor would be where one would be seated in a concert hall.  Are you close to the piano, behind the piano (facing the opposite side to the lid)?
Hmm, from my experience I can tell you that you can play a lot softer on a concert grand than on a normal grand.

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Re: The quietest pianist
Reply #6 on: April 18, 2007, 04:00:41 PM
What do you think of Radu Lupu?
I heard him playing a Beethoven pianoconcerto with orchestra and he played very soft. I would have preferred it a little louder, but it blended very well with the orchestra.

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Re: The quietest pianist
Reply #7 on: April 19, 2007, 02:45:22 PM
Pogorelich and Wilhelm Kempf are good in quiet playing.
Pursuing somebody's point above: Can anybody recommend some good FAST pianissimo playing? I can't think of GENUINE examples of that. For instance, I've read a critic praising the pianissimo prestissimo at the end of Barere's Gnomenreigen, but if he'd actually listened to the record, he would have noticed that it's not really pianissimo. The pp octaves in Horrowitz' funerailles coda are pp, but aren't as fast as in the manic central section.
In particular, I fantasise about hearing subito pianissimos at very fast tempos, but I can't find anything like that in my collection (let alone do it myself). Maybe it's physically impossible.

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Re: The quietest pianist
Reply #8 on: April 19, 2007, 03:36:39 PM
I immidiately come to think of Akiko Ebi, japanese pianist who whon the Margarite Long competition in the 70s I think. I heard her in Spain this summer and played for her in masterclass, and she was playing Chopin nocturnes and other pieces in the most quiet, whispering way I've ever heard in concert. A cough would have completely disturbed the concert but the audience was spellbound by her pianissimos and una cordas... At the same time, she could sound really powerful when the music needed it.

Offline richard black

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Re: The quietest pianist
Reply #9 on: April 20, 2007, 02:55:40 PM
Yonty Solomon. As a friend said of him, '....his enormous dynamic range, from pianissimo downwards'.
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Offline liszt1022

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Re: The quietest pianist
Reply #10 on: April 20, 2007, 04:55:41 PM
Besides Chopin's Nocturnes, I think Ravel's Gaspard would be the pieces that will determine one's mastery of soft playing. I've wanted to play them but I can't play soft that well.

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Re: The quietest pianist
Reply #11 on: April 20, 2007, 09:38:25 PM
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Yonty Solomon. As a friend said of him, '....his enormous dynamic range, from pianissimo downwards'.
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Re: The quietest pianist
Reply #12 on: April 21, 2007, 02:34:48 AM
just saw a vid of Uchida's Beethoven 4th, some extraordinarily soft playing.
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Re: The quietest pianist
Reply #13 on: April 21, 2007, 08:14:57 AM
Horowitz.
although he can't go the softest, his piano playing is full of colors.
He can have a delicate touch like slik, and then in the next moment, he can have a tone color that is tougher than steel
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Re: The quietest pianist
Reply #14 on: April 22, 2007, 03:15:17 AM
did anyone here already mention Gieseking? and Clara Haskil  ;D  8)
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Re: The quietest pianist
Reply #15 on: April 29, 2007, 02:26:10 AM

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Re: The quietest pianist
Reply #16 on: April 29, 2007, 04:25:03 AM
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