Abbreviated theory notations

[keyofc]

I'm finally working on the Moonlight Sonata Movement 3
and I am not a classical junkie.

I was wondering do any of you have different ways of notating movements to make them easier to remember?

For example -
in 1st measure -I would write C#/G instead of the roman numeral - but then how do you notate it's going up to the next c# before that arpeggio is finished?

Or for example,, measure 5, third group of notes, do you have your own way of notating it to remind yourself it's starting on the third and going down to the G#?

I think it would be a lot easier to memorize if there were standard ways for notating these differences.   or perhaps there are and I just don't know about them?

[jlh]

I'm finally working on the Moonlight Sonata Movement 3
and I am not a classical junkie.

I was wondering do any of you have different ways of notating movements to make them easier to remember?

For example -
in 1st measure -I would write C#/G instead of the roman numeral - but then how do you notate it's going up to the next c# before that arpeggio is finished?

Or for example,, measure 5, third group of notes, do you have your own way of notating it to remind yourself it's starting on the third and going down to the G#?

I think it would be a lot easier to memorize if there were standard ways for notating these differences.   or perhaps there are and I just don't know about them?

You have to look at larger groupings of notes.  You're reducing it to single notes where there is a definite grouping of at least 3 notes.  For the first measure, just think of it in the RH as arpeggios on a C# min 2nd inv. (or C#m/G#).

I think the music score itself is a pretty standard way of notating differences like this... 

[keyofc]

thanks jl,
I don't have a problem reading music, but I have a problem with remembering it (unless I learned by ear or, of course, wrote it myself)

I guess its something like note-taking - everyone has their own way of doing it to help them memorize.

If I was going to try to go over it (jot it down) before I play something, I would write it as an outline.

There are some movements that need to be defined more specifically to have it memorized correctly. 

<Maybe no one else writes themselves out a shorthand version)

But if anyone does - please let me know.

[timothy42b]

No, I think you're on to something. 

There are methods that make memorizing some items much easier.  Usually they involve prememorizing some kind of set of rules, then adapting the new list to it.  A good starting point is that memory book by ........ oh shoot, my memory has failed, but it's one of the standard ones, co-written with Jerry Lucas the basketball player. 

At any rate, in memory contests there are standard tests.  One is being given a shuffled deck of cards and memorizing the complete order, fastest time wins.  (always under 60 seconds, winners usually around 40 - 45 seconds.)  They have systems or they couldn't do this kind of stunt. 

There are similar methods for long digit numbers, for faces, etc.  I haven't seen much specifically for music - that's why I asked the SATB question recently. 

My kids don't use memory tricks and they laugh at me when, for example, I construct mental images to remember the  number of my spot in the parking ramp.  They don't need them at their age, and young pianists probably don't either.  I do. 

[mknueven]

Thanks Tim-
yes, I need them too!