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Offline kevink

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scales in doubled thirds
on: May 16, 2007, 12:41:42 AM
Does anyone practice these?  I'm reading Boris Berman's book, "Notes from the Piano Bench," and in it he mentions them as part of his daily routine.

Does anyone know where I can find fingerings for all major/minor scales in doubled thirds?  I've never even tried it! 

Thanks,
Kevin

Offline pianistimo

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Re: scales in doubled thirds
Reply #1 on: May 16, 2007, 01:56:24 AM
james francis cooke book has them.  page 38

C Major and minor:
rh 31,42,53,31,42,31,42,31,42,53,31,42,31,42,53,42,31,42,31,53,42,31,42,31,42,31,53,42,31

rh 31,42,53,21,31,42,53,31,42,53,21,31,42,53,31,53,42,31,21,53,42,31,53,42,31,21,53,42,31

lh 35,24,13,24,13,24,13,35,24,13,24,13,24,13,35,13,24,13,24,13,24,35,13,24,13,24,13,24,35

lh 35,24,13,35,24,13,12,35,24,13,35,24,13,12,35,12,13,24,35,13,24,35,12,13,24,35,13,24,35

(C major first - then c minor)

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Re: scales in doubled thirds
Reply #2 on: May 16, 2007, 02:45:59 AM
"Does anybody practice these?"
I practice these quite often because I suck at them, same with octaves.  I find its easier for people with bigger hands.  Do the chromatic ones also-they're good for you.
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Offline mikey6

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Re: scales in doubled thirds
Reply #3 on: May 16, 2007, 03:23:23 AM
I heard Berman's warmup, it's a weird 10 minute mixture of Chopin studies (which includes the double 3rd etude) and scales and arpeggios.
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Offline invictious

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Re: scales in doubled thirds
Reply #4 on: May 16, 2007, 12:22:49 PM
They are a pain to practice, and for me, at least, I need to bend it at a very unusual angle (forearm almost perpendicular)

Maybe it's just me with bad technique
but if you find yourself doing that, Stop.
it can cause many kinds of injury, which sound damn painful.
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Offline ramseytheii

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Re: scales in doubled thirds
Reply #5 on: May 16, 2007, 01:01:02 PM
You should also practice scales with Liszt's legendary fingering: 4-2 4-2 4-2 4-2 4-2 etc
LH: 2-4 2-4 2-4 2-4 2-4 etc
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Re: scales in doubled thirds
Reply #6 on: May 16, 2007, 01:51:38 PM
You should also practice scales with Liszt's legendary fingering: 4-2 4-2 4-2 4-2 4-2 etc
LH: 2-4 2-4 2-4 2-4 2-4 etc
:)

Walter Ramsey


and that note, i was cheating my way thru mazeppa with the traditional 13-24 fingering... it's sooo much easier
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Offline franzliszt2

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Re: scales in doubled thirds
Reply #7 on: May 16, 2007, 08:23:23 PM
and that note, i was cheating my way thru mazeppa with the traditional 13-24 fingering... it's sooo much easier

Why? It sounds crap if you don;t do 24 24

I do scales in double 3rds every day in every key. It's great for all round finger strength. Work out your own fingering, and make it legato as possible. It's a very personal thing

Offline keyofc

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Re: scales in doubled thirds
Reply #8 on: May 17, 2007, 12:09:26 AM
what do you mean doubled thirds?
I practice - say I'm in C
in left hand do relative minor
in right hand do Cmajor

I'm playing in 3rds,
but it sounds like maybe you mean something else?

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Re: scales in doubled thirds
Reply #9 on: May 17, 2007, 12:58:51 AM
lol one hand does thirds... so one hand does C and E at the same time, then goes up the scale with that constant interval... CE-DF-EG.. etc
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