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Whose do you prefer?

prongated
4 (26.7%)
DA ROBBAH
4 (26.7%)
both
5 (33.3%)
NONE! I PLAY BETTER THAN THEM!
2 (13.3%)

Total Members Voted: 15

DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor (Read 7184 times)

Offline prongated

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...as said, I'm not very pleased with the prelude - it's too fast, the mordents/turns are crap, and dynamics are pretty much non-existent...

...but here is. Step in, rob47 ^^

ps. while at it, may I point you to: http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,24050.0.html? I'd muchly appreciate comments and criticisms for the "re-recorded" attempt. Thanks!

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Re: DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor
«Reply #1 on: July 01, 2007, 06:18:20 PM »
i just woke up/one take/very rusty/my folks walked in the door near the end 8)

but as is the famous wolfi quote "duel is duel, deadline is deadline" or somthing

respect 8)
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Re: DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor
«Reply #2 on: July 01, 2007, 07:48:58 PM »
My vote goes to da RRRRRRROOOOOOOBAH, which is actually a surprise to me as I didn't know he could actually play. :P 8) Nice work guys!
[lau] 10:01 pm: like in 10/4 i think those little slurs everywhere are pointless for the music, but I understand if it was for improving technique

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Re: DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor
«Reply #3 on: July 01, 2007, 07:57:42 PM »
My vote goes to da RRRRRRROOOOOOOBAH, which is actually a surprise to me as I didn't know he could actually play. :P 8) Nice work guys!

How blind you are.
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Re: DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor
«Reply #4 on: July 01, 2007, 09:00:21 PM »
How blind you are.

 ???

two very nice recordings, indeed!

I don't understand, what you mean with "how blind you are"?
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Re: DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor
«Reply #5 on: July 01, 2007, 09:52:26 PM »
Nicely done, guys! This is what the audition room is about!

Both excellent interpretations of one of the coolest P&Fs, but I preferred prongated's more exciting (yet still well controlled) tempo in the prelude.

Cheers.  :)

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Re: DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor
«Reply #6 on: July 01, 2007, 09:54:48 PM »
How blind you are.

Haahaha true, da ROBBAH is now a legend.  8)

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Re: DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor
«Reply #7 on: July 01, 2007, 10:06:17 PM »
???

two very nice recordings, indeed!

I don't understand, what you mean with "how blind you are"?
ahaha anyone who knows da ROB or witnezzed hiz genius (rocky1zon or TE10) will never zay anything lyk this
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Re: DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor
«Reply #8 on: July 01, 2007, 10:52:34 PM »
ahaha anyone who knows da ROB or witnezzed hiz genius (rocky1zon or TE10) will never zay anything lyk this

a-ha insider joke  - not funny for outsiders  8)
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Re: DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor
«Reply #9 on: July 01, 2007, 11:02:21 PM »
ahaha anyone who knows da ROB or witnezzed hiz genius (rocky1zon or TE10) will never zay anything lyk this

...ooooh shall we continue with a TE10 duel then? ;D

Poll added...cast your preferences ^^

...hmmm quite a different way of playing, rob...when I saw it's 9 minutes something, I thought you did the repeats...then there's dynamics...so, much thanks for showing me this in a different light!

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Re: DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor
«Reply #10 on: July 01, 2007, 11:19:19 PM »
Just short for now: actually I ike both approaches, though I actually also think, that prongated might do a bit more dynamics, especially in the sigh-motifs of the prelude. Rob's very passionate and tragical style is something that speaks directly to me, but sometimes it tends to be a bit heavy whereas prongate's interpretation has the non-legato- leggiero- lightness. Respect to both! 8) Very interesting to listen to such different interpretations. Actually a sort of draw to me.

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Re: DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor
«Reply #11 on: July 02, 2007, 12:02:28 AM »
i just listened to mine and for sure the prelude didnt turn out how i wanted (hangover?) i hadnt played it for 2 weeks and all the other previous excuses i have made..... 8)

ne way prongated yours is great! very lyrical
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...ooooh shall we continue with a TE10 duel then? ;D



as for a TE10 battle i am not big on it these days but heres a famous clip from the SDC of what my interp 2 years ago sounded something like: 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV59WsbXV0E

edit: good call on adding a poll
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Re: DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor
«Reply #12 on: July 02, 2007, 12:17:23 AM »
How blind you are.

I may be blind, but at least I ain't dumb.   8)
[lau] 10:01 pm: like in 10/4 i think those little slurs everywhere are pointless for the music, but I understand if it was for improving technique

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Re: DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor
«Reply #13 on: July 02, 2007, 12:20:34 AM »
I may be blind, but at least I ain't dumb.   8)

Really? :)
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[lau] 10:01 pm: like in 10/4 i think those little slurs everywhere are pointless for the music, but I understand if it was for improving technique

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Re: DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor
«Reply #15 on: July 02, 2007, 01:31:38 AM »
 :) Cute.
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Re: DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor
«Reply #16 on: July 02, 2007, 06:34:11 AM »
So rob47 is one of these speed freaks? 

Then his Bach is really surprising  :)
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Re: DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor
«Reply #17 on: July 05, 2007, 09:21:17 AM »
They are both great recordings
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Re: DUEL: prongated vs rob47: J.S. Bach, WTK bk II no 18 in G# minor
«Reply #18 on: July 05, 2007, 01:36:54 PM »
as for a TE10 battle i am not big on it these days but heres a famous clip from the SDC of what my interp 2 years ago sounded something like: 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV59WsbXV0E

Ahahahaha niiiiiiice! I'd expect only the likes of Cziffra to do something like that in that mini-cadenza hahaha!

hmmm I realised I should've added that 4th choice for the poll...if anyone chooses that option, you should:

a) identify yourself, then
b) submit your own rec of this piece...or set another duel :D