What is the problem with the world ?

[m1469]

Okay, this is possibly a dangerous subject.  But, I am just curious how many people think they can actually name what it is, and live their lives thinking that way.  But, basically, if you think the world is just not working, what do you think is not working about it ?

Personally, I think that it's the individual.  It's easy to blame others, whether it be society or government or whomever else -- but I think it really boils down to each individual and our abilities (and willingness) to deal with ourselves and with life.  Then, I think this obviously affects everything else.

[pianistimo]

i couldn't agree with you more!  to me, if everyone thought about doing something nice for someone at least once a day (even random strangers) the world would be a nicer place.  instead of blowing someone up - or beating them up - or raping, pillaging, etc.  can you imagine if nobody had to worry about crime?  it would be a different world.  half our lives are doing things to maintain security.  locking the car, watching the purse, buying security systems, watching the children, not going out late, etc. etc.  people would be so free if they could travel and go wherever they wanted without fear. 

what i think is a dangerous subject is politics.  seems that the average person isn't really aware of behind the scenes stuff (all the other politics).  what if we actually had someone elected that could work with the economics that we are dealing with and get us out of this really bad situation.  you know - maybe work WITH the idea of immigration in a way that would improve the financial and economic stability of both usa and latin america.  get hugo chavez back on our side.  this is my dream.  i want hugo chavez to love the usa and quit feeling the need to deal with syria and iran or whoever else is giving him more of what he needs and wants.  and the people!   people are people.  they need to put aside prejudice and make the world a better place.

[nicco]

Its all in your head.

[maul]

You. You are the problem.

[m1469]

You. You are the problem.

 

[m1469]

Just to be clear, what I have said is not to imply that there are not things wrong with governments and so on, and that all we need to do is shift our thoughts about it (per se).  More of what I mean would be along the lines of the fact that the government is ultimately made up of individuals, too.

[thalbergmad]

what i think is a dangerous subject is politics. 

Exchange politics for religion and i agree.

Thal

[pianistimo]

i guess sex is the only thing left to talk about.  although, from ted's perspective - it is very dangerous and harmful to women.  i mean, if they have too many children.  i do not think ted is catholic.

[thalbergmad]

i guess sex is the only thing left to talk about. 

It appears to be your 2nd favourite subject.

Thal

[pianistimo]

no.  it's opus10#2's.  i'm just wondering why men have so much to deal with.  how uncomfortable having so many erections whilst practicng must be.  women only occasionally get hot - and simply fan themselves.

is there truly such a thing as a bach 'wiener urtext?'  i never heard of such a thing.

[thalbergmad]

no.  it's opus10#2's. 

I might be wrong, but it could be his 1st favourite subject.

Thal

[pianistimo]

i think it's a toss up.  piano/sex  perhaps he sees the piano differently than most men.  perhaps the curves do something.

[opus10no2]

i would like to use opus10#2 for some experimental purposes. 

Sorry, onlym1469has permission to do that  

About the topic, everything has and will come to a natural resolution.

If human nature is flawed enough, it will self-destruct, and if it does - it deserves to.

i think it's a toss up.

Perhaps.

[ted]

No Susan, I certainly wouldn't say sex is always harmful to women, that is silly; having a baby is a natural event, after all, and one which should bring great joy. However, just going flat out through ignorance as they did in the old days, and some do now, producing masses of children, often unwanted and unloved, unable to be looked after properly, and endangering the health of the mother and the stability of the family - no, that isn't right. No, I am not a catholic, but at least where I live, most catholics are now pretty sensible about these matters. In this part of the world the lack of thought concerning procreation lies in areas quite unconnected with religion.

As to m1469's original question, I can't go past Aldous Huxley's dying statenent. "People should try to be kinder to one another." You have to have logic and reasoning too, of course, but unless it is directed toward kindness and the overall reduction of suffering, reason alone can be a very selfish thing.

The urgent nature of this problem of rules and logic, which include the rules of monetary systems, was brought home right here in Auckland a few weeks ago. In an incident which probably reached the newspapers of most people on this forum, an Auckland woman's house had its power disconnected because the family had not paid a bill of $168. She was dependent on an oxygen machine and she died in consequence. Moreover, the people who cut the power off, it seems, knew of her dependency. Until some degree of kindness is brought into these idiotically ruthless procedures of "user pays" we are going to see many more cases of this senseless cruelty.

Where my wife comes from, in the Philippines, if you cannot pay you die, simple as that, life is so abominably cheap. I used to be proud of the humanitarian and egalitarian nature of my country's government - not any more. If anything we seem to be going backwards into barbarism - a blind willingness to abandon kindness to follow monetary rules. It seems it is better to let people die than to turn a blind eye to the small percentage who might rip off the system.

[prometheus]

The problem is that you assume that this world shouldn't have what you call 'problems'.

It's all unfortunate that the world has these qualities and I would probably have the same judgment on many of them. But of course these world has properties we would call 'problematic' and of course it has bad qualities. What did you expect?


It would be quite a mystery if this world didn't have any.


But all that doesn't mean we shouldn't all work towards a world with less, and in the end no, problems.