Repertoire for the Year

[ilikepie]

Okay, putting it simply in 2 words, this year is going to be a "gap year". I don't have work, I don't have any physical activities lined up, no school work, no nothing(assuming my dad doesn't sign me up for culinary whatnot [he wants to learn to cook but doesn't want to go alone]). So basically, I have a whole year dedicated to building my repertoire before I go to college.
So far, what I've thought of:
*An asterisk means I have to learn it for examination purposes.
+A plus sign means I have to review or keep it in maintainance.
- An - means I'm in the process of learning it.

Bach WTK 1 Prelude and Fugue A major*
Beethoven Sonata op.10 no.3*-, Pathetique(just so I have something that almost everyone knows, and so that my dad doesn't always get pissed off when I play prokofiev...this shouldn't also take more than a week to complete)
Chopin Etudes (at least 5) preferably out of  op10 no.1,2,3,4 op.25 no.1,2,4,5
Debussy L'isle Joyeuse
Debussy Estampes(all, but Soiree dans Grenade is priority*)
Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody no. 9,10,11*,15
Liszt Concert Etudes (Gnomenreigen, Un sospiro, La laggizziera sp?)
Prokofiev Sonatas(no.2*+, no.4, no.1/3)
Prokofiev op.4 no.4(maybe used for exam interchangeably with Prokofiev sonata)*
Schubert Sonata D845
Rachmaninoff Preludes op.23 no.5-, op.32 no.5-,12+
Rachmaninoff Etude-Tableux op33 no.8(g minor)
Ravel Jeux d'eau
Ravel Miroirs(Une Barque sur l'ocean, Alborada del Gracioso)
One Piano Concerto(preferably prokofiev no.1, or liszt no.2)

I don't think that I can finish everything on this list, but I'm merely going to choose. A year is an awfully long time though, so suggestions of any pieces in the same level will be appreciated, since I also need to expand my knowledge of music pieces.

[dnephi]

So far, what I've thought of:
*An asterisk means I have to learn it for examination purposes.
+A plus sign means I have to review or keep it in maintainance.
- An - means I'm in the process of learning it.

Bach WTK 1 Prelude and Fugue A major*
Beethoven Sonata op.10 no.3*-, Pathetique(just so I have something that almost everyone knows, and so that my dad doesn't always get pissed off when I play prokofiev...this shouldn't also take more than a week to complete)
Chopin Etudes (at least 5) preferably out of op10 no.1,2,3,4 op.25 no.1,2,4,5
Debussy L'isle Joyeuse
Debussy Estampes(all, but Soiree dans Grenade is priority*)
Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody no. 9,10,11*,15
Liszt Concert Etudes (Gnomenreigen, Un sospiro, La laggizziera sp?)
Prokofiev Sonatas(no.2*+, no.4, no.1/3)
Prokofiev op.4 no.4(maybe used for exam interchangeably with Prokofiev sonata)*
Schubert Sonata D845
Rachmaninoff Preludes op.23 no.5-, op.32 no.5-,12+
Rachmaninoff Etude-Tableux op33 no.8(g minor)
Ravel Jeux d'eau
Ravel Miroirs(Une Barque sur l'ocean, Alborada del Gracioso)
One Piano Concerto(preferably prokofiev no.1, or liszt no.2)

Etudes:

I recommend Chopin: 10-1,10-2,10-7, 10-4, 25-6. (mostly for technical reasons.  These are great music notwithstanding.)

Liszt's Etudes: Gnomenreigen, Ricordanza, and perhaps Wilde Jagd are great technique builders and scintillating in performance.  Ricordanza is a particularly good choice in the fact that it is considerably long and closer to a ballade than an etude.

Rachmaninoff's Op. 39 No. 3 is a great piece which works a variety of problems as well.

The Schubert Sonatas are great.  My favorites are the Posthumous sonatas, but the D845 is just as great. 

On the Hungarian Rhapsodies, wouldn't a piece of similar virtuosity from Annees de Pelerinage be better musically?

That's all I have to say for now.

But, on another note, my mother can't stand me practicing Prokofiev either.

[rob47]

it looks like you have reluctantly added some bach to your wishlist; all things considered i recommend you do mo. almost everything he wrote is beneficial and good for your soul; after an honest days work on Bach this will be apparent, i promise. Pianists who say they don't like Bach haven't played any. I predict you are at the stage in your training where you have realized you can basically play anything and have dived into the shit, which is good! but show restraint. by looking at your list i get the impression their are beautiful pieces you wouldn't try to master because they appear 'too easy'. And yo, i'm not insulting your choices, your list is ambitious and the virtuoso rep is great!

i will now proceed to take my head out of my own arse.

Good luck esé!

[amelialw]

how about adding some Mendelssohn and Schumann to your list? You have 1 year and you're gonna learn 2 classical sonatas. If you say that you will take only 1 week to learn Pathetique, then learn something harder or learn another sonata by Mozart or Haydn. Are you going to take your ABRSM Dip?

[lau]

you guys how can you learn so much in only a year? I learn only one or two peices a year, but they big peices, but only 3 minutes if you know what i mean. i have been working on 10/4 for like 4 months and am on page 3.

[amelialw]

you guys how can you learn so much in only a year? I learn only one or two peices a year, but they big peices, but only 3 minutes if you know what i mean. i have been working on 10/4 for like 4 months and am on page 3.
are you in school though? the reason why i can learn so many pieces in a year now is because im not in school, i'm spending full-time on my ARCT Performance dip plus all the theory. Well if you are not in school it's ok if you take a longer time, different people learn at different speeds. I may take a really short while to learn a Haydn, Beethoven, Mozart, Rachmaninofff, Mendelssohn or Schumann but it can take me forever to learn a bach.

If you learn only 1-2 pieces a year how do u go for exams? And do you even have a teacher?

[lau]

i don't do all of that exam stuff and get grade levels, my teacher doesn't do that or my past teacher. and i am in school, but not for the summer.

[imbetter]

dear lau, im not in music school yet but when you enter music school, it becomes your life. My piano teacher told me he'd wake up in the morning and see a student go into the practice room and they'd be in there all day.

Okay, putting it simply in 2 words, this year is going to be a "gap year". I don't have work, I don't have any physical activities lined up, no school work, no nothing(assuming my dad doesn't sign me up for culinary whatnot [he wants to learn to cook but doesn't want to go alone]). So basically, I have a whole year dedicated to building my repertoire before I go to college.
So far, what I've thought of:
*An asterisk means I have to learn it for examination purposes.
+A plus sign means I have to review or keep it in maintainance.
- An - means I'm in the process of learning it.

Bach WTK 1 Prelude and Fugue A major*
Beethoven Sonata op.10 no.3*-, Pathetique(just so I have something that almost everyone knows, and so that my dad doesn't always get pissed off when I play prokofiev...this shouldn't also take more than a week to complete)
Chopin Etudes (at least 5) preferably out of  op10 no.1,2,3,4 op.25 no.1,2,4,5
Debussy L'isle Joyeuse
Debussy Estampes(all, but Soiree dans Grenade is priority*)
Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody no. 9,10,11*,15
Liszt Concert Etudes (Gnomenreigen, Un sospiro, La laggizziera sp?)
Prokofiev Sonatas(no.2*+, no.4, no.1/3)
Prokofiev op.4 no.4(maybe used for exam interchangeably with Prokofiev sonata)*
Schubert Sonata D845
Rachmaninoff Preludes op.23 no.5-, op.32 no.5-,12+
Rachmaninoff Etude-Tableux op33 no.8(g minor)
Ravel Jeux d'eau
Ravel Miroirs(Une Barque sur l'ocean, Alborada del Gracioso)
One Piano Concerto(preferably prokofiev no.1, or liszt no.2)

I don't think that I can finish everything on this list, but I'm merely going to choose. A year is an awfully long time though, so suggestions of any pieces in the same level will be appreciated, since I also need to expand my knowledge of music pieces.

i like your selection! but instead of doing hungarian rhapsodys by liszt and maybe a concerto by liszt, why dont you replace a couple of them for some other large romantic works?

as for your piano concerto.....

instead of doing liszt or prokofiev why dont you find another one you love by a composer your not already doing and learn that? id suggest some but i just woke up and i cant think.

good luck!

[soliloquy]

Have you thought about adding something modern to your rep like maybe Rzewski, late Scriabin, Ligeti, Corigliano, Vine, Dutilleux etc?  It's always good to have as a diverse repertoire as possible

[amelialw]

hmm why not a Mozart, Schumann, or Mendelssohn Concerto then? I don't see any of these 3 composers in your list...

[imbetter]

schumann concerto is a good idea. mendelssohn and mozart concertos are a little simplistic for his apparent level

[amelialw]

yup...anyway if you're interested you can get the sheet music for schumann from https://imslp.org/wiki/Main_Page

I'm learning it myself, and it really is enjoyable, full of challenges especially the 3rd movement which is the hardest. Go listen to it at www.classicalmusicarchive.net

[ilikepie]

Sorry for the late post, I just got back from a flight that was delayed 3 days(lol?)
So I'm going to list all you have recommended and I'll try to listen to the ones I have no clue about...
Chopin: 10-1,10-2,10-7, 10-4, 25-6
Liszt Gnomenreigen, Ricordanza Wilde Jagd
Liszt, something from Annees de Pelerinage (I've only heard two "au bord d'une source" and "le jeux'deua a la Vi lla d'Este" and I do like them) Any more suggestions though, since I don't know where to find mp3s or whatnot of any more...
Rachmaninoff's Op. 39 No. 3

it looks like you have reluctantly added some bach to your wishlist; all things considered i recommend you do mo. almost everything he wrote is beneficial and good for your soul; after an honest days work on Bach this will be apparent, i promise. Pianists who say they don't like Bach haven't played any. I predict you are at the stage in your training where you have realized you can basically play anything and have dived into the sh*t, which is good! but show restraint. by looking at your list i get the impression their are beautiful pieces you wouldn't try to master because they appear 'too easy'. And yo, i'm not insulting your choices, your list is ambitious and the virtuoso rep is great!

i will now proceed to take my head out of my own arse.

Good luck esé!

On the contrary, I'm actually not very good with Bach, therefore I try to avoid playing Bach. Although I can't deny I like a lot of composers compared to Bach, I can't really hate him either. As for playing anything, I reeeeeally don't think so. =[ There are a lot of things I know I can't play for a while...

how about adding some Mendelssohn and Schumann to your list? You have 1 year and you're gonna learn 2 classical sonatas. If you say that you will take only 1 week to learn Pathetique, then learn something harder or learn another sonata by Mozart or Haydn. Are you going to take your ABRSM Dip?

I'm not really sure about learning other sonatas, because the only reason I'm learning Pathetique is to transfer the concentration off my prokofiev sonatas; my parents think its funny when they pick on prokofiev haha. On the schumann note, I plan to learn other novelletten(I finished no.1 last year and am now relearning it). I'm not really well versed with Schumann, therefore I don't know a lot of his compositions, even the more famous ones.

Have you thought about adding something modern to your rep like maybe Rzewski, late Scriabin, Ligeti, Corigliano, Vine, Dutilleux etc?  It's always good to have as a diverse repertoire as possible

cough.

About the concertos, I'm only learning them based on a whim, nothing else really... I don't think I'd be interested with with other concertos at the moment.

[ilikepie]

I just heard Liszt's Etudes(some) and I think they're quite good, and somewhat possible. I guess Wilde Jagd, Ricordanza, Gnomenreigen will be my next etudes, aside from my Chopin and Scriabin etudes.
About the Rach etude... double notes hate me... so obviously chopin op25 no.6 is like hell(feux follets is the devil). I will have to face my technical insufficiencies though. I guess this would be the start.
I don't really like Bach or Mozart and I don't have any clue about Mendelson(sp?) so scratch those out hahahahaha ;o;

Any suggestions on Schumann, Scriabin etc are appreciated, just remember I don't really like very modern pieces.

[amelialw]

How about Schumann's Variations?

[soliloquy]

Scriabin Preludes Op. 74

[dnephi]

How about Schumann's Variations?

He wrote quite a few sets.

Might I recommend instead Brahms' Op. 9 variations on a theme of Schumann?

About Scriabin, I recommend the Op. 11 Preludes as a starting place.

You'd like Szymanowski's Sonata No. 2 in a.  It's pianistic but has enormous climaxes and some Reger influence. 

[ilikepie]

How about Schumann's Variations?

Which one?

He wrote quite a few sets.

Might I recommend instead Brahms' Op. 9 variations on a theme of Schumann?

About Scriabin, I recommend the Op. 11 Preludes as a starting place.

You'd like Szymanowski's Sonata No. 2 in a. It's pianistic but has enormous climaxes and some Reger influence.

Do you know where to find recordings(mp3, streaming sites or the like?)? I can't seem to find any recordings. I can't really go online to buy them as I don't have a credit card, and can't really go and buy cds at the moment considering I'm abroad... I will buy them if I come across them, but until then...

[amelialw]

the variation in C major or a minor.

[christiaan]

Try some Schubert Impromptus and then you can also give Liszt`s transcription of Wagner`s Isoldes Liebestod a shot.

For a concerto I will do Beethoven no. 1 or any of the Liszt concertos. The Todentanz will also be appropriate.

[dnephi]

Which one?Do you know where to find recordings(mp3, streaming sites or the like?)? I can't seem to find any recordings. I can't really go online to buy them as I don't have a credit card, and can't really go and buy cds at the moment considering I'm abroad... I will buy them if I come across them, but until then...

https://naxosmusiclibrary.com  Click 15 minute preview.  When 15 minutes are up, close all browsers and repeat. 

After you learn Chopin 10-2, double-notes will be more manageable for you. 

[amelialw]

www.classicalmusicarchive.net

sign up and you can listen to 5 pieces of music for free everyday

[ilikepie]

www.classicalmusicarchive.net

sign up and you can listen to 5 pieces of music for free everyday

not very fond of midis.

https://naxosmusiclibrary.com Click 15 minute preview. When 15 minutes are up, close all browsers and repeat.

After you learn Chopin 10-2, double-notes will be more manageable for you.

That is, if I can actually learn 10-2... Seems somehow possible though.

Try some Schubert Impromptus and then you can also give Liszt`s transcription of Wagner`s Isoldes Liebestod a shot.

For a concerto I will do Beethoven no. 1 or any of the Liszt concertos. The Todentanz will also be appropriate.

I don't want to do Beethoven no.1 again... ;o; I did it a few years ago. I'll try to listen to the impromptus...

the variation in C major or a minor.

I'll listen to it.

[amelialw]

opps mistake...sorry I meant Mendelssohn's Variation in C and Mendelssohn's Variation in a ...as an afterthought you could try his Rondo Cappriccioso