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Offline pita bread

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Suggest an etude for my program
on: August 17, 2007, 04:57:19 AM
Hey everyone, I'm finishing up a transfer audition program but am still missing an etude.

My current program:

Bach WTC Book I #18, g#minor
Beethoven Sonata #28, Op. 101
Brahms Op. 118 #1,2,6

What etudes do you guys think would go well with this program?

p.s. I don't really want to limit the choices, but I'm pretty sure one of the schools only wants Liszt, Chopin, Scriabin, and Rachmaninoff etudes. Still, feel free to suggest whatever you want.

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #1 on: August 17, 2007, 05:52:13 AM
...any time limit?

Very musical program, btw...and uah, ur playing the 3 B's...very nice, very nice ^^

So in that light, something 'light' in mood like Feux Follets or Chopin's op. 10 no. 8 will be good I think.

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #2 on: August 17, 2007, 06:00:11 AM
yeah go for Chopin Etude Op.10 No.8 if you like it.

I'm learning it now, it's a difficult one because you really have to be able to relax your hands when you play it,otherwise you hands will really ache. Musicality wise beautiful and it really sparkles.

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #3 on: August 17, 2007, 11:47:29 AM
yeah go for Chopin Etude Op.10 No.8 if you like it.

I'm learning it now, it's a difficult one because you really have to be able to relax your hands when you play it,otherwise you hands will really ache. Musicality wise beautiful and it really sparkles.

https://imslp.ca/images/imslp.ca/0/08/Chopin_-_OP10_8.PDF

Agree. One of the difficulties with this amazing etude is that it is mandatory to arrive to the last page with a relaxed RH, because the last 30 seconds or so require a very light and clear mozartian kind of articulation.

I also think it would fit well with your program. 
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #4 on: August 17, 2007, 12:00:24 PM
do bartok 3 etudes to complete one more B  8)
or do prokofiev or stravinsky etudes to make your program more varied!
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #5 on: August 17, 2007, 01:10:16 PM
man i LOVE beethoven op101

for the etudes, there are SO many out there, dont limit your choices.

stravinsky op.7, macdowell wrote several sets, borkiwicz (sp?), prokofiev, debussy, moszkowsky, saint-saens.


i could literally go on all day naming composers that wrote etudes.
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #6 on: August 17, 2007, 01:35:09 PM
...any time limit?

Very musical program

what 8)

10/1 or 10/2

Most impressive etudes if performed memorably.
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #7 on: August 17, 2007, 02:02:33 PM
I recommend Rocket 39-3.
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #8 on: August 17, 2007, 04:06:41 PM
for the etudes, there are SO many out there, dont limit your choices.

stravinsky op.7, macdowell wrote several sets, borkiwicz (sp?), prokofiev, debussy, moszkowsky, saint-saens.

The schools are limiting his choices, not him.

Go with Scriabin. I don't recall you ever telling me that you learned one of his etudes, and it's about time.

And, for the record, it's spelled Bortkiewicz.

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #9 on: August 17, 2007, 04:15:47 PM
I'm relearning Chopin 10-8 right now, and though technically, it might be easier than some other etudes, if played well, it sounds really great. Some suggestions: 10-1, 10-4. Maybe if you want to show virtuosity, a Liszt Transcendental Etude would work.

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #10 on: August 17, 2007, 04:59:39 PM
Thanks everyone for all the great suggestions!

...any time limit?

Very musical program, btw...and uah, ur playing the 3 B's...very nice, very nice ^^

So in that light, something 'light' in mood like Feux Follets or Chopin's op. 10 no. 8 will be good I think.

Would prefer to keep it on the shorter side...

Arg I hate picking an etude, I can never decide on something and stick with it  :(

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #11 on: August 17, 2007, 05:45:05 PM
want me to decide for you?  ;)
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #12 on: August 17, 2007, 05:59:50 PM
Chasse-Neige

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #13 on: August 17, 2007, 07:32:26 PM
Op.10 No.8 is really short
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #14 on: August 17, 2007, 07:39:20 PM
a

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #15 on: August 17, 2007, 09:15:28 PM
Op 10 no 12

Íf you have the passion for it ;)

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #16 on: August 17, 2007, 09:19:04 PM
TE10

possibly
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #17 on: August 17, 2007, 09:48:55 PM
TE10

possibly

I've been considering this one for so long!

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #18 on: August 17, 2007, 09:50:25 PM
Dude Rob, lets duel with an etude!

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #19 on: August 17, 2007, 10:14:45 PM

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #20 on: August 17, 2007, 11:49:27 PM
Dude Rob, lets duel with an etude!

ya i need one alzo, anything except TE10
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #21 on: August 18, 2007, 12:16:11 AM
What do you have in mind?

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #22 on: August 18, 2007, 12:26:07 AM
Rob, howabout Scriabin 42/5? or perhaps 42/6 if you like that?

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #23 on: August 18, 2007, 02:16:11 AM
How about "Il Lamento" and "La Leggierezza"?  They aren't too familiar but still mainstream.

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #24 on: August 18, 2007, 04:05:07 AM
Or perhaps a lesser played chopet?

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #25 on: August 18, 2007, 07:48:35 AM
Or perhaps a lesser played chopet?

I think the audience would be rather impressed if you pulled out op. 10/11, op. 25/4, op. 25/5 or op. 25/8 and played it well. 25/5 in particular is a great one, tells a whole story, something between an etude and ballade. Comparatively long though.
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #26 on: August 18, 2007, 04:11:04 PM
How about "Il Lamento" and "La Leggierezza"?  They aren't too familiar but still mainstream.

...I wouldn't consider Il Lamento an Etude as such...since I think the aim of making etudes mandatory in auditions is to prove your technical accomplishments.

I think the audience would be rather impressed if you pulled out op. 10/11, op. 25/4, op. 25/5 or op. 25/8 and played it well.

...I think 'audience' is an understatement...but essentially yes.

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #27 on: August 18, 2007, 04:41:07 PM
I'm doing chop 25/5 at the moment, and it's a bit of a pain to learn, but really great to play. It is not as difficult as it sounds, and it also has the bonus of being a comparatively fast etude, but one with more scope for phrasing, voicing, rubato etc than most. If played well it will show lots of facets of your playing.
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #28 on: August 18, 2007, 11:14:07 PM
...I think 'audience' is an understatement...but essentially yes.

Hahaha yeahhhhhhhhhh...

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #29 on: August 19, 2007, 09:09:45 PM
haha * these Scrib etudes are insane! (-ly difficult)

i am listening to Gavrilov's 42 5 right now and thinking eff it lets duel 8)

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #30 on: August 19, 2007, 10:10:31 PM
Hahaha

I have it narrowed down to Scriabin 42/5, 42/6 or Chopin 25/5  8)

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #31 on: August 19, 2007, 11:28:52 PM
haha * these Scrib etudes are insane! (-ly difficult)

i am listening to Gavrilov's 42 5 right now and thinking eff it lets duel 8)



EDIT

actually, eff it. i probably shouldnt duel with 42/5

Beethoven Op. 101 final mvt is massacring me right now.. need a friggen easier etude...

what else do you have in mind robbah?

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #32 on: August 19, 2007, 11:31:57 PM
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #33 on: August 20, 2007, 11:45:56 AM
play rach 33#4... the most impressive one although it s not the hardest one

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #34 on: August 20, 2007, 04:40:30 PM
how about rach 33/2
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #35 on: August 20, 2007, 11:16:12 PM
i have no clue 8)
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #36 on: August 21, 2007, 09:14:29 AM
Hahaha
I have it narrowed down to Scriabin 42/5, 42/6 or Chopin 25/5  8)

Given this decision, it might be more helpful for pita bread to comment on the pros and cons of these three specific pieces, instead of adding new options right and left.
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #37 on: August 21, 2007, 09:53:51 PM
Given this decision, it might be more helpful for pita bread to comment on the pros and cons of these three specific pieces, instead of adding new options right and left.

Haha, I'm actually not all that sure anymore...

I don't care to learn etudes really but this is something I have to do. I want to duel Rob on something 'cause it'll force me to sit down and learn an etude.

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #38 on: August 21, 2007, 11:01:37 PM
why not go for some bartok and make it 4 Bs ?
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #39 on: August 22, 2007, 08:38:06 AM
I have wanted someone to do chop 25/5 with me for ages. How about it, Pita?
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #40 on: August 22, 2007, 09:49:27 PM
why not go for some bartok and make it 4 Bs ?
ahaha those 3 bartok etudes op.18 are so damn difficult...be prepared if you want to learn them.
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #41 on: August 22, 2007, 10:14:05 PM
ahaha those 3 bartok etudes op.18 are so damn difficult...be prepared if you want to learn them.

Word.

Plus, I'm limited by audition requirements to Chopin, Liszt, Scriabin, and Rachmaninoff.

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #42 on: August 23, 2007, 02:31:53 AM
I have wanted someone to do chop 25/5 with me for ages. How about it, Pita?

possibly  8)

but you have already started learning it

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Reply #43 on: August 23, 2007, 07:04:11 PM
Started, but certainly not finished. You pick a date, any time will be fine for me. If it's a long time away then I will get complacent, do something else in the meantime, and rush to get it done at the last minute as always.
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #44 on: August 25, 2007, 06:10:50 PM
perhaps, haha.

I always have a hard time sticking with an etude though...

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #45 on: August 26, 2007, 02:57:26 AM
Godowsky/chop 25/5 in the form of mazurka

verrrrrrrrrrrrrry nice one and compared to other chop gods pretty easy learning the notes?

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #46 on: August 26, 2007, 02:59:36 AM
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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #47 on: August 26, 2007, 03:10:12 AM
or the 10/5 god tarantula, also not as hard as some, but more challenging than the mazurka i think (i've learned the first 2 pages half-assed'ly in betweeen real practicing; the GREG(t25s6) asserts the 3rd page will present problems)

i dunno godowsky was a clever moe-foe.

or for just chopets 10/9 (i think this is the one fminor, the left hand is excercised) is a really powerful diddy, with maybe even more asspassion than the liszt 10th in fminor

ligeti?

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #48 on: August 26, 2007, 03:20:49 AM
gonna listen to the chopgods right now

what ligeti do you have in mind?

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Re: Suggest an etude for my program
Reply #49 on: August 26, 2007, 03:27:56 AM
i really want to learn any of

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