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Offline s1d1f1

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chopin e minor cocncerto....
on: August 18, 2007, 01:36:20 PM
Last night I heard a chopin e minor(op.1)conceto,and I was shocked!She played it with string qvartet,and it was like they didn't hear them selves.She didn't play with real orchest.but I was wondering something,That woman is famous,in Germany,and Serbia,how can that things happen?mistakes,mistakes?And I thought I am not able to play with orcestra>My God!!

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Offline ricardomoyano

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Re: chopin e minor cocncerto....
Reply #1 on: January 24, 2010, 10:58:36 AM
economic crisis, my friend...

Offline thalbergmad

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Re: chopin e minor cocncerto....
Reply #2 on: January 24, 2010, 11:25:03 AM
Some concertos do not need an orchestra and that is one of them.

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Re: chopin e minor cocncerto....
Reply #3 on: January 24, 2010, 03:53:46 PM
...and some others find any accompaniment at all unnecessary...I believe there are solo piano versions lying around...

Offline pocho

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Re: chopin e minor cocncerto....
Reply #4 on: January 24, 2010, 04:14:52 PM
Wait, what I got from the post was that they were making too many mistakes.

Offline quantum

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Re: chopin e minor cocncerto....
Reply #5 on: January 24, 2010, 04:17:23 PM
I wonder if the s1d1f1 means to say that playing the concerto with string quartet was a mistake?
Made a Liszt. Need new Handel's for Soler panel & Alkan foil. Will Faure Stein on the way to pick up Mendels' sohn. Josquin get Wolfgangs Schu with Clara. Gone Chopin, I'll be Bach

Offline tea cup

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Re: chopin e minor cocncerto....
Reply #6 on: January 25, 2010, 03:29:50 AM
Do you mean this recording?

https://www.classicsonline.com/catalogue/product.aspx?pid=7613

I'm listening to it now on Spotify. It sounds amazing!

Offline retrouvailles

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Re: chopin e minor cocncerto....
Reply #7 on: January 25, 2010, 03:54:59 AM
Chopin did arrange the orchestra parts for string quartet for both concertos. I wouldn't consider it that unheard of for an early romantic concerto. Heck, a lot of concertos from around that time (roughly) or slightly before can even be played in a solo reduction with acceptable results.

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Re: chopin e minor cocncerto....
Reply #8 on: January 25, 2010, 09:54:16 PM
Heck, a lot of concertos from around that time (roughly) or slightly before can even be played in a solo reduction with acceptable results.

And Andante Spianato with Grand Polonaise Brillante Op.22 is a good example

Offline birba

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Re: chopin e minor cocncerto....
Reply #9 on: January 26, 2010, 01:12:11 PM
i would think the f minor would especially sound good with a string quartet.

Offline liordavid

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Re: chopin e minor cocncerto....
Reply #10 on: April 18, 2010, 04:08:22 PM
speaking of that, the beethoven g major piano concerto has a secind movement that can be with a string quartet. no transcription needed

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Re: chopin e minor cocncerto....
Reply #11 on: April 18, 2010, 07:09:23 PM
Mozart sanctioned a string quartet accompaniment for three concertos, K413, K414 and K415.
These work well as pieces of chamber music and while I'm fully aware that a number of concertos from the early romantic period were also arranged for such reduced accompaniments (indeed I believe that, in the case of one of the Moscheles concertos that is all there is extant as performing material) it strikes me as a bit of a "cop-out" to perform the Chopin concertos (which are not infrequently performed) in this way as the orchestral writing does not translate into such good chamber music as do the Mozart examples, being more an accompaniment to the piano part rather than an integrated collaboration.
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