Haydn sonata no 50 in C

[thaicheow]

Hi,
Dunno where to post this topic. Might as well just put it here. May be those who has tought this piece can give me some advice.

1. What does the "open pedal" in 1st movement means? Should I press the damper pedal? Or just leave it. As some told me it is just an idea of suspended chords, etc.

2. What is the fuss about this piece? It seems like a lot of great pianists like to perform this piece: Ritcher played it in his carnagie hall debut, Lang lang played it in carnagie hall too, and a lot of contestants in the competition love to play it. Is it haydn's much later sonata? What does the title "English" mean? Does it mean he composed it after he move to British?

3. If you teach this piece,  what do you expect a performer to show in this piece? It seems no very deemanding (technically),  but yet I found it tricky to grasp 100%-ly on all the notes, especially the double 3rd in 1st movement. Any suggestions?

Thanks.

[thaicheow]

Haiz, accidentally put up two threads. Can somebody please help me to delete one of them? thanks

[pianistimo]

have to find the score first.  probably the international score library would have it.  let me look.  (*can't remember which piece exactly as yet)

ok. here it is:

https://imslp.net/images/d/d1/Haydn_-_Piano_Sonata_No_50_in_C.pdf

here's a great listen:

https://ondemand2.publicradio.org/ondemand/minnesota/features/music_menlo/nicolas_haydn_piano.wma

[pianistimo]

my score from imsl shows (una corda) under the open pedal on page 5.  so, perhaps it's just that.  a combo of open pedal and una corda.  letting the chords blend softly and not too mushy sounding.  i really haven't played this - so hopefully someone who has will answer.

[pizno]

I am working on this piece.  I think it is appealing because it is very fun to play.  Open Pedal - I'm not so sure but think una corda.

Pizno

[pianistimo]

sostenuto?  but that would mush the lh chords in the rh.

maybe pizno is right. the impression, or something?!

beethoven used this open pedal in several sonatas, too.  i suppose that if you play so softly - the mushiness isn't really a huge issue.  sort of ghostish here and an indication that something is going to happen afterwards.  is this a retransition back to the main idea on the next page?

there's another one of these on page 7 - mid-page.  brendel (? i think) uses the damper whilst making it very soft and ghostish.

[imbetter]

great sonata. i thought about working on it when i get the chance.

heres hamelin playing it