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Offline Triton

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How should i play thirds?
on: August 20, 2007, 10:14:56 AM
Can anyone upload a pdf or something showing what fingers you use when going up like c+d#, c#+e, and so on? I'm thinking of chopin op. 25 no. 6. It would come in handy I guess. ;)

Thanks  :)
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Offline invictious

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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #1 on: August 20, 2007, 10:28:39 AM
Do:



and



how she does it with such easy is just scary.
Bach - Partita No.2
Scriabin - Etude 8/12
Debussy - L'isle Joyeuse
Liszt - Un Sospiro

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Prokofiev - Toccata

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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #2 on: August 20, 2007, 11:07:59 AM
Do:



and



how she does it with such easy is just scary.


Thanks:-) Really good job she does.. But i must have the fingerings! It's too quick for me. Anyone who got the scale of how to generally play thirds ascending and or descending??

Thanks in advance!
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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #3 on: August 20, 2007, 11:52:47 AM
Cello Qualifications: ATCL LTCL

ugh, TCL
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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #4 on: August 20, 2007, 12:40:13 PM
ugh, TCL

Me > j00

Back on topic, does your sheet music indicate the fingering?
If it doesn't, then I recommend going online and checking Cortot's Edition.
Bach - Partita No.2
Scriabin - Etude 8/12
Debussy - L'isle Joyeuse
Liszt - Un Sospiro

Goal:
Prokofiev - Toccata

>LISTEN<

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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #5 on: August 20, 2007, 01:42:59 PM
This may be exactly what you're looking for^^
https://www.leopoldgodowsky.com/jonas5.pdf
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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #6 on: August 20, 2007, 05:53:53 PM
This may be exactly what you're looking for^^
https://www.leopoldgodowsky.com/jonas5.pdf

Thank you Term!:-)

Appreciate it;-) Thanks for answers everyone else also!

Triton.

Offline ramibarniv

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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #7 on: August 20, 2007, 07:31:46 PM
Can anyone upload a pdf or something showing what fingers you use when going up like c+d#, c#+e, and so on? I'm thinking of chopin op. 25 no. 6. It would come in handy I guess. ;)

Thanks  :)
Triton.

The trick is sliding the 2nd finger from the last black key in the direction you're going to the next white key.
All starting and ending on c+d#
RH up: 13 24 15 23 24 13 24 13 24 15 23 24 13...
LH up: 42 32 41 (51) 32 (42) 51 42 31 42 32 51 42 51 42...

RH down: 23 14 (15) 23 (24) 15 24 13 24 23 15 24 15 24 23...
LH down: 42 15 32 42 31 42 31 42 51 32 42 31 42...

In my opinion these are the best, fastest and smoothest fingering, which will also go down in my fingering book, if I ever get around to actually write it....
Hope this helps.
Best,
Rami
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Offline mikey6

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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #8 on: August 21, 2007, 12:37:25 AM
The cortot edition has been ul's quite a few times, he offer's fingerings for the whole piece.
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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #9 on: August 21, 2007, 02:26:22 AM
There's a hilarious post on the SDC about this guy who just tried to learn the thirds etude and decided to give up.  Lots of foul and frustrated language.  haha.

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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #10 on: August 21, 2007, 06:34:00 AM
There's a hilarious post on the SDC about this guy who just tried to learn the thirds etude and decided to give up.  Lots of foul and frustrated language.  haha.
That guy be trumofo ;)
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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #11 on: August 22, 2007, 06:45:09 PM
true. he may have trouble with the thirds, but you wouldnt be laughing if you heard his chopin 10.4

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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #12 on: August 23, 2007, 04:45:54 AM
true. he may have trouble with the thirds, but you wouldnt be laughing if you heard his chopin 10.4
Was it fast? ;) ;D
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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #13 on: August 23, 2007, 09:50:05 AM
Was it fast? ;) ;D

Let's hope it's under 80 seconds
Bach - Partita No.2
Scriabin - Etude 8/12
Debussy - L'isle Joyeuse
Liszt - Un Sospiro

Goal:
Prokofiev - Toccata

>LISTEN<

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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #14 on: August 23, 2007, 10:17:22 AM
Hahaha the :tm: actually haff all 3 core SDC values defining his playing: Speed, Fury, and Jihad.

However odd that may be :lol:
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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #15 on: August 23, 2007, 02:19:36 PM
not only was it fast, the clarity was phenominal at an extreme tempo. it's a shame he plays like a machine though.

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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #16 on: August 31, 2007, 05:11:48 PM
his improv on "I hate you mother ******" is legendary.   8)

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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #17 on: August 31, 2007, 09:07:42 PM
The trick is sliding the 2nd finger from the last black key in the direction you're going to the next white key.
All starting and ending on c+d#
RH up: 13 24 15 23 24 13 24 13 24 15 23 24 13...
LH up: 42 32 41 (51) 32 (42) 51 42 31 42 32 51 42 51 42...

RH down: 23 14 (15) 23 (24) 15 24 13 24 23 15 24 15 24 23...
LH down: 42 15 32 42 31 42 31 42 51 32 42 31 42...

In my opinion these are the best, fastest and smoothest fingering, which will also go down in my fingering book, if I ever get around to actually write it....
Hope this helps.
Best,
Rami
https://www.youtube.com/user/barniv
https://ramisrhapsody.tripod.com/

So what is your book telling us about major thirds  :)

Offline ramibarniv

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Re: How should i play thirds?
Reply #18 on: August 31, 2007, 09:24:02 PM
So what is your book telling us about major thirds  :)

If you use the same trick of sliding the 2nd finger from the last black key, in the direction you're going, into the next white key, you can figure the rest out.
Best,
Rami
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