Piano Forum



Rhapsody in Blue – A Piece of American History at 100!
The centennial celebration of George Gershwin’s Rhapsody in Blue has taken place with a bang and noise around the world. The renowned work of American classical music has become synonymous with the jazz age in America over the past century. Piano Street provides a quick overview of the acclaimed composition, including recommended performances and additional resources for reading and listening from global media outlets and radio. Read more >>

Topic: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?  (Read 9819 times)

Offline bjm412

  • PS Silver Member
  • Newbie
  • ***
  • Posts: 3
What is the best/your favorite recording of Brahms' Variations and Fugue on a Theme by Handel (op.24)?

I have Katchen's rendition, which is absolutely amazing. This made me fall in love with the piece. Sublime performance.
Sign up for a Piano Street membership to download this piano score.
Sign up for FREE! >>

Offline steinwaymodeld

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 468
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #1 on: August 21, 2007, 10:46:29 AM
Katchen was solid

but i prefer Richter's live one, Ernst Levy and Egon Petri
Perfection itself is imperfection - Vladimir Horowitz

Offline pianistimo

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 12142
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #2 on: August 21, 2007, 01:10:45 PM
alexei lubimov isn't bad.  kinda sparkly playing.  not as 'choralish' as light.  you'll never find as clear of playing, though.  it's one of a kind.

https://www.rhino.com/store/digital/detail.lasso?upc=809274998668

Offline fnork

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 733
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #3 on: August 21, 2007, 03:12:16 PM
I have a great Brahms CD with Francisca Skoogh, she includes the Handel suite on which Brahms made the variations, too:
https://www.classicstoday.com/review.asp?ReviewNum=5921

Offline burstroman

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 494
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #4 on: August 22, 2007, 02:09:13 AM
I've always liked the recording by Arrau.

Offline mikey6

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1406
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #5 on: August 22, 2007, 04:21:07 AM
Solomon was good, and Katchen.

Just to add, since this piece is in my repertoire atm, that fugue is the most horribly un-pianistic, uncomfortable piece i've ever played!
Never look at the trombones. You'll only encourage them.
Richard Strauss

Offline fnork

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 733
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #6 on: August 22, 2007, 10:14:50 AM
really? I read it through once (slowly) and the fugue seemed okay but I might be wrong after just a readthrough of course... what are the difficulties in it?

Offline imbetter

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1264
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #7 on: August 22, 2007, 02:06:16 PM
ive never listened to this piece and theres no youtube video. were can i listen to it for free?
"My advice to young musicians: Quit music! There is no choice. It has to be a calling, and even if it is and you think there's a choice, there is no choice"-Vladimir Feltsman

Offline mephisto

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1645
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #8 on: August 22, 2007, 03:07:48 PM
ive never listened to this piece and theres no youtube video. were can i listen to it for free?

Here is the only non-commercial recording I can share with you. As I belive it's against the rules of this forum to post commerical recordings. It's a Pletnev recordings from the Wigmore Hall 27.10.1995.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/654b17

Offline imbetter

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1264
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #9 on: August 22, 2007, 03:10:40 PM
thank you very much mephisto
"My advice to young musicians: Quit music! There is no choice. It has to be a calling, and even if it is and you think there's a choice, there is no choice"-Vladimir Feltsman

Offline thalberg

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1950
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #10 on: August 22, 2007, 04:28:59 PM
I have Emmanuel Ax's recording.  It's not bad.

Offline jinfiesto

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 273
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #11 on: August 22, 2007, 10:32:39 PM
Stephen kovacevich has a recording... And I thought it was pretty good.

Offline nodoubt328

  • PS Silver Member
  • Newbie
  • ***
  • Posts: 1
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #12 on: May 22, 2009, 05:52:23 AM
Just heard Katchen's recording which also made me fall in love with the piece. Splendid.

Offline retrouvailles

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2851
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #13 on: May 22, 2009, 06:00:10 AM
Just heard Katchen's recording which also made me fall in love with the piece. Splendid.

Did you have to revive a nearly 2 year old thread to say that?

Offline communist

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1100
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #14 on: May 22, 2009, 10:55:42 AM
Pletnev's is very good and tds's is very good.
"The stock markets go up and down, Bach only goes up"

-Vladimir Feltsman

Offline edwardweiss

  • PS Silver Member
  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 76
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #15 on: May 23, 2009, 07:07:49 PM
 As one might expect from me, three 'outsiders'. Number one-the very great Egon Petri, recorded 1938. Number two- Jorge Bolet, recorded `1980. And last of all-Sergio Fiorentino, recorded 1965. BTW-the fugue is not too unpianistic if you have worked your way through most of Brahms'  '51 Exercises'!

Offline ramseytheii

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2488
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #16 on: May 25, 2009, 12:08:40 AM
As one might expect from me, three 'outsiders'. Number one-the very great Egon Petri, recorded 1938. Number two- Jorge Bolet, recorded `1980. And last of all-Sergio Fiorentino, recorded 1965. BTW-the fugue is not too unpianistic if you have worked your way through most of Brahms'  '51 Exercises'!

Unpianistic is unpianistic, no matter how many exercises you do. :)

In any case, Brahms wrote piano music deliberately to be unpianistic, according to Charles Rosen.  He was the sort of Anti-Liszt of the piano; his exercises are also very uncomfortable.

The fugue is not pianistic, but it is not the most awkward thing Brahms wrote.

Walter Ramsey


Offline ramseytheii

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2488
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #17 on: May 25, 2009, 12:09:12 AM
Katchen was solid

but i prefer Richter's live one, Ernst Levy and Egon Petri

I love Ernst Levy, I didn't know he recorded this.. how can I hear it?  Is it published?

Also, is the Petri published?

Walter Ramsey


Offline edwardweiss

  • PS Silver Member
  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 76
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #18 on: May 25, 2009, 06:01:44 PM
 Petri's performance is on 'Egon Petri Volume 3' which was on Pearl-Pavilion label. I do not know whether it is still available. Number is GEMM CDS 9078.

Offline communist

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1100
Re: Brahms/Handel Variations and Fugue - Favorite Recording?
Reply #19 on: May 25, 2009, 06:40:51 PM
I love Ernst Levy, I didn't know he recorded this.. how can I hear it?  Is it published?

Also, is the Petri published?

Walter Ramsey





His performance is on YouTube
"The stock markets go up and down, Bach only goes up"

-Vladimir Feltsman
For more information about this topic, click search below!
 

Logo light pianostreet.com - the website for classical pianists, piano teachers, students and piano music enthusiasts.

Subscribe for unlimited access

Sign up

Follow us

Piano Street Digicert