Is virginity overrated?

[counterpoint]

You don't need sex to live.

You need!

Otherwise you would not live   

[pianolearner]

    There is a difference between F*Ckig, screwing, shaging, sex and love making.
People f*ck those they dis-like, screw those those they care little about, have sex with those who are available. However making love has a more long lasting and meaningful value.
    BTW   virginity is a sure way of keeping out of trouble, so its choice really for the vast majority.

No. Men have sex, women make love. The ironic thing about virginity is you need to lose it in order to find out if sex is overrated... It isn't 

[pianistimo]

symbology is in a wedding ceremony.  white = purity.  and for religious people - they see that Jesus values purity as he was born of a virgin.  the bible defines it as 'knowing any man.'  it never mentions friction.

[counterpoint]

No. Men have sex, women make love. The ironic thing about virginity is you need to lose it in order to find out if sex is overrated... It isn't 

I would say, you can have an orgasm without losing the physical "virginity" and thats why the term "virginity" is so misleading.

[thalbergmad]

the bible defines it as 'knowing any man.'  it never mentions friction.

Well, the primitive spastics that wrote the Bible, probably had never heard of it.

Thal

[pianistimo]

of course they'd heard of virginity.  it's one of the precepts of the OT - and not a bad idea in itself.  preventative health care as well as holding men responsible for their actions.  prenancy and std's in one.  also, no state-mandated child care systems - but parents. 

[thalbergmad]

of course they'd heard of virginity.  it's one of the precepts of the OT - and not a bad idea in itself.  preventative health care as well as holding men responsible for their actions.  prenancy and std's in one.  also, no state-mandated child care systems - but parents. 

I meant friction divhead.

[prometheus]

No. Men have sex, women make love.

How old-fashioned.


Anyway, if people really cherish virginity so much. I'd sell mine. while I am not really that into commercial enterprise, I guess technically I still have 'it', whatever it is exactly.

[thalbergmad]

Anyway, if people really cherish virginity so much. I'd sell mine. while I am not really that into commercial enterprise, I guess technically I still have 'it', whatever it is exactly.

I think someone has already done that.

A young girl sold her virginity on E Bay to raise money to get through college.

Thal

[pianistimo]

well, better than selling friction.  especially if it's not in the bible.  how are you going to sell something that doesn't exist except in your mind.  *don't give the phone solicitors any ideas.

prometheus, be proud of what you have.  don't sell it.  hold on to it and perhaps the value will triple and quadruple.  seriously.  some woman will probably think she won the jackpot (excepting that the first letters could be 'cr' on some of your other ideas).

[thalbergmad]

well, better than selling friction.  especially if it's not in the bible. 

There is lots of fiction in the bible, but no friction.

[pianolearner]

How old-fashioned.


Anyway, if people really cherish virginity so much. I'd sell mine. while I am not really that into commercial enterprise, I guess technically I still have 'it', whatever it is exactly.

It's not old fashioned. Women like to think that pleasing a man is very important. This is why they cook and clean. Making herself available for her husband after he has worked all day is expected. Therfore a woman feels she is making love because she is giving herself to him out of love and respect. Whereas a man views it as getting what he deserves and is entitled to.

[pianistimo]

is this about relationships or virgins vs. non-virgins?  i'm confused. 

ok. as i hear it - most women are tired from not being diagnosed with some kind of adrenal failure and barely hear the door swing open at night - let alone being in some kind of 'make thyself ready' mode.  therefore, to have energy the next day is somewhat like a viscious cycle.  if you don't have sex you don't have energy either.  so, it feeds on itself. until the weekend - when you make up for it by having sex three times in a row.  good luck on that. it's like credit cards that won't go down.  then, you've had too much and are still tired.  the only way to get out of this cycle is to take an extremely cold shower and then set about preparing for the next week.  attempting to set your mind at peace and pretending that nothing is getting on your nerves.  there are times when women are surprisingly attentive and other times - you may as well stand next to the dishwasher and hold soap.

[matterintospirit]

were it not for virginity, there would be no little virgin olives to make olive oil and that would be indeed a sad day for cooks.

[prometheus]

Ok ok, I take everything back.


We NEED that olive oil.

[pita bread]

You don't need sex to live.

WHAT

BLASPHEMY!!!

[mikey6]

He is most likely banned. What he did in the chatroom isn't moral and any kind of pardon is unjustifiable.

man, I certainly missed something! what happened?

[timothy42b]

But in purely practical terms, doing sex well takes as much talent and practice as playing piano well.

And just like piano, it may be impossible to start after a certain age and still reach any decent level of skill.

Also like piano, an experienced teacher may be needed.  Can you imagine two beginners teaching each other piano? 

[counterpoint]

Also like piano, an experienced teacher may be needed.  Can you imagine two beginners teaching each other piano? 

There exist a vast range of educational films nowadays 

[jlh]

There exist a vast range of educational films nowadays 

...many entertaining as well! 

[ahinton]

symbology is in a wedding ceremony.  white = purity.  and for religious people - they see that Jesus values purity as he was born of a virgin.  the bible defines it as 'knowing any man.'  it never mentions friction.

There is absolutely no scientific proof of this virgin birth myth and if genetic research hasn't quite made it possible even today it would certainly not have been so 2,000 years ago.

Anyway, not all "religious people" are as concerned as you are with the way in which Jesus is said to have valued purity; don;t forget 9as you seem to do all too often) that not all religious people are Christians in any case.

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

There is lots of fiction in the bible, but no friction.

Oh, I don't know so much; it seems to rub you up the wrong way quite often...

Best,

Alistair

[matterintospirit]

WHAT

BLASPHEMY!!!

with yourself at the very least.

[lichristine]

It's not old fashioned. Women like to think that pleasing a man is very important. This is why they cook and clean. Making herself available for her husband after he has worked all day is expected. Therfore a woman feels she is making love because she is giving herself to him out of love and respect. Whereas a man views it as getting what he deserves and is entitled to.

Ew.
Thank god I could never be that kind of wife.
Ever.
Ever.

[Torp]

Thank god I could never be that kind of wife.

I think this is because you have a brain and aren't afraid to use it.

Jef

[ahinton]

It's not old fashioned. Women like to think that pleasing a man is very important. This is why they cook and clean. Making herself available for her husband after he has worked all day is expected. Therfore a woman feels she is making love because she is giving herself to him out of love and respect. Whereas a man views it as getting what he deserves and is entitled to.

Ew.
Thank god I could never be that kind of wife.
Ever.
Ever.

I thought that pianistimo had the monopoly on invoking God here, but never mind - that was not my point, which is that, for the record, I wouldn't want to be that kind of husband either.

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

it's like credit cards that won't go down. 

Not as bad as women that won't.

Thal

[ahinton]

Not as bad as women that won't.

Thal

I rather think that most of us could see that one coming from at least a hundred paces...

Best,

Alistair