The Alkaline Diet

[thalberg]

Has anyone tried this?  There's some philosophy that we are all too acidic, and if we adjust our diet to make ourselves slightly alkaline, all our health problems will go away.  Thoughts?

[counterpoint]

Has anyone tried this?  There's some philosophy that we are all too acidic, and if we adjust our diet to make ourselves slightly alkaline, all our health problems will go away.  Thoughts?

The only things I eat are: spaghetti, pizza, corn flakes, apples and ice cream   

No health problems.

[timothy42b]

Little high in carbohydrates, aren't you counterpoint?

If I ate like that I'd be asleep by mid morning.  And I only want to do that on Sunday! 

Our bodies have an amazing ability to adjust themselves back to a condition of homeostasis.  I don't see how we can ever be alkaline or acid at any time.  If we are it's what our bodies have evolved to function at and I wouldn't want to change it. 

[thalberg]

The only things I eat are: spaghetti, pizza, corn flakes, apples and ice cream   

No health problems.

LOL!!! Counterpoint, you're awesome.

[jlh]

LOL!!! Counterpoint, you're awesome.

HAHA well I seem to be doing ok on my fast-food diet, since that's all I have time to eat...

No health problems and no weight problems...

[ahinton]

It might have been OK for Alkan, but...

Best,

Alistair

[pianistimo]

the 'alkanline diet?'  very funny alistair. 

what i read (before i was pregnant) was that if you ate fruit a lot - you ruined your chances for a boy - so i ate all kinds of vegetables like spinach.  if that dumb then it's dumb - but anyways - he was a boy.

then, i wanted a girl - so i ate all kinds of strawberries and fruit (this was before pregnancy , mind you).  i suppose it all sounds like quackery.  but i have two girls now.  probably not due to anything i ate - but they say the environment for a baby is conducive to one or the other via alkaline and acidic. 

yogurt seems the perfect balancing food.  ifyou are too much one way or the other - eat unsweetened yogurt with nuts and or a little fruit.  it acts as a sort of acidic balancer and makes things much better in your stomach.

[ahinton]

the 'alkanline diet?'  very funny alistair. 

what i read before i was pregnant was that if you ate fruit a lot - you ruined your chances for a boy - so i ate all kinds of vegetables like spinach.  if that dumb then it's dumb - but anyways - he was a boy.

then, i wanted a girl - so i ate all kinds of strawberries and fruit (this was before pregnancy , mind you).  i suppose it all sounds like quackery.  but i have two girls now.  probably not due to anything i ate - but they say the environment for a baby is conducive to one or the other via alkaline and acidic. 

yogurt seems the perfect balancing food.  ifyou are too much one way or the other - eat unsweetened yogurt with nuts and or a little fruit.  it acts as a sort of acidic balancer and makes things much better in your stomach.

Pregnancy is not a problem that has ever beset me, of course, but yogurt is; despite my awareness of the fact that the beneficial effects of the organic bio live ones are widely acknowledged, I simply cannot stomach the stuff unless it's disguised in cooking.

Best,

Alistair

[pianistimo]

i understand, alistair.  do you ever wonder how much what we eat depends on our upbringing, our personal tastebuds, and probably what our stomach feels like afterwards.  also, the chemicals in food can affect us one way or another.  for instance some people cannot take food coloring - which seems to be in a lot of things nowdays.  unsweetened items tend to have less of this.  also preservatives are in a lot of food.

some diets are claiming to be healthy for not including much meat.  others, for eating food from the sea (kelp/fish).  but, what if you like meat - or can't stand fish.  now they say fish has a lot of mercury in it - anyways.  who to believe.  some livestock has hormones, too.  milk, eggs - everything has pollutants in it now that didn't used to be there. 

i suppose the perfect diet might have actually been several thousand years ago - but people didn't eat as much either, probably.  how many fresh figs can you down? 

supposedly drinking a little red wine is good for you heart and makes people live longer.  but, then - i heard wine is only good for women but, if a man wants to be really healthy - he should drink a beer once in a while.  i think they are talking about stress relief and how to stay mentally healthy.

don't you think what works for one person might be poison to another?  for instance, if i forced alistair to eat yoghurt and he didn't think it was helping him - he'd get sick. 

[mike_lang]

supposedly drinking a little red wine is good for you heart and makes people live longer.  but, then - i heard wine is only good for women but, if a man wants to be really healthy - he should drink a beer once in a while.  i think they are talking about stress relief and how to stay mentally healthy.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe it deals with antioxidants.  For this reason, it is Guinness specifically that is prescribed in the realm of ale (a story on this can be found on the BBC somewhere in the last couple of weeks).

[pianistimo]

you're probably right!

[mike_lang]

you're probably right!  you know - just to set the record straight - i think that catholics in general have a lot of things right (excepting worship of the pope - but that's a tangent).  i mean - they tend to be really involved with their families, have pretty good schools and model behavior, and aren't worried about unprotected sex.  i mean within marriage.  how much better can it get?  somehow - i thought they didn't drink.  but, if they are also allowed to drink a little wine for the stomach's sake - or a little guiness for the ale - they're not all that bad.  does the pope drink? (too bad he can't marry - but that's another tangent).

Labeling your accusation of papal worship tangential is generous... 

As for drinking and Catholicism, everything in moderation, my dear.

[cmg]

the 'alkanline diet?'  very funny alistair. 

what i read (before i was pregnant) was that if you ate fruit a lot - you ruined your chances for a boy - so i ate all kinds of vegetables like spinach.  if that dumb then it's dumb - but anyways - he was a boy.

then, i wanted a girl - so i ate all kinds of strawberries and fruit (this was before pregnancy , mind you).  i suppose it all sounds like quackery.  but i have two girls now.  probably not due to anything i ate - but they say the environment for a baby is conducive to one or the other via alkaline and acidic. 

I'm confused here.  Is it reading or eating particular foods that brings on pregnancy?

[pianistimo]

wait.  the miracle that Jesus performed at Cana must have meant people were having a second glass.  but, agreed - moderation in everything.  it was a wedding after all - and not just a typical daytime drinking binge.

cmg, for your information - i was attempting to figure out how to isolate xy's.  then, i also read that they are short-lived and that you have to basically opt for the day of ovulation to have any sort of luck with getting them to be 'on time.'  with girls - you opt for several days before ovulation and wait for all the xy's to die.  this circumvents genetic selection via in-vitro or adoption if you are really wanting one or the other.  of course, accidents happen.  not that a boy or girl being the opposite would be an accident.  i don't know why - but i just really wanted to experience having both a boy and girl.  then, we had a third.  not third sex, mind you - third child.  apparently the environment (alkaline, acidic) also determines how much either the xy or xx survives.  if you want to kill the xy's eat fruit.  at least that's what i read. 

[cmg]

cmg, for your information - i was attempting to figure out how to isolate xy's.  then, i also read that they are short-lived and that you have to basically opt for the day of ovulation to have any sort of luck with getting them to be 'on time.'  with girls - you opt for several days before ovulation and wait for all the xy's to die.  this circumvents genetic selection via in-vitro or adoption if you are really wanting one or the other.  of course, accidents happen.  not that a boy or girl being the opposite would be an accident.  i don't know why - but i just really wanted to experience having both a boy and girl.  then, we had a third.  not third sex, mind you - third child.  apparently the environment (alkaline, acidic) also determines how much either the xy or xx survives.  if you want to kill the xy's eat fruit.  at least that's what i read. 

Oh, got it.  Thanks, p.  But should one meddle so much with the Lord's biological work?

[pianistimo]

well, if you are not catholic (which they are probably right about not meddling) you are not likely to have more than 1-2 children nowdays.  and, at most 3-4.  if you had 10 you wouldn't have any time to select anything.  this article is similar to what i read when i was going through this alkaline and acidic stuff (eating mostly fruit before attempting to get pregnant with a girl) https://www.smartstork.com/page11.asp

[ahinton]

i understand, alistair.  do you ever wonder how much what we eat depends on our upbringing, our personal tastebuds, and probably what our stomach feels like afterwards.  also, the chemicals in food can affect us one way or another.  for instance some people cannot take food coloring - which seems to be in a lot of things nowdays.  unsweetened items tend to have less of this.  also preservatives are in a lot of food.

I don't get obsessed about this kind of thing but I do care about it. I don't so much wonder about those things as agree with your implication. I have no desire actively to ingest food colouring, preservatives or pesticides and accordingly hardly ever buy any packaged food.

some diets are claiming to be healthy for not including much meat.  others, for eating food from the sea (kelp/fish).  but, what if you like meat - or can't stand fish.  now they say fish has a lot of mercury in it - anyways.  who to believe.  some livestock has hormones, too.  milk, eggs - everything has pollutants in it now that didn't used to be there. 

It's all a matter of degree how much in the way of "pollutants" or other extraneous chemical agents are in what foodstuffs; it is reasonably possible to avoid most of the kinds of things to which you refer and still have not only a healthy but an enjoyable diet. There's far too much garbage written about diets, however (see below).

i suppose the perfect diet might have actually been several thousand years ago - but people didn't eat as much either, probably.  how many fresh figs can you down?

Five loaves and two fishes to you, too!...

supposedly drinking a little red wine is good for you heart and makes people live longer.  but, then - i heard wine is only good for women but, if a man wants to be really healthy - he should drink a beer once in a while.  i think they are talking about stress relief and how to stay mentally healthy.

I've never heard that about wine - and a beer once in a lifetime would be about three too many for me, thanks.

don't you think what works for one person might be poison to another?  for instance, if i forced alistair to eat yoghurt and he didn't think it was helping him - he'd get sick. 

As Sorabji might have said in a different context, I think nothing of the sort - I KNOW it! Of course this is true. This is a large part of the problem with these fix-all diet obsessions. The only way to be near certain that your diet suits you (apart from figuring out for yourself what may or may not suit you) is to consult a properly qualified clinical nutritionist, any one of whom will tell you the same story - which is that almost no kind of dietary régime will suit everyone. I wish that I could eat yogurt, actually (although I don't at all care that I cannot drink beer) but, since I'm not that bothered about it, I wouldn't at all feel inclined to consult a professional to find out if I happen to have some kind of allergy to it.

Best,

Alistair

[thalberg]

I grew up Catholic, and Catholics are certainly allowed to drink, to answer a previous question.

Also---here's another thought.  I'm threadjacking my own topic.

I have read that every food we eat is cationic, and that there is only ONE exception to this--lemons.  They are anionic. 

Squeezing half a lemon into a cup of hot water every morning, and drinking it, is supposed to be amazing for  the liver and for overall health.  I've tried this the past two days.  Except I used room temperature water.  There's a great website for this.  I must find the link somewhere. 

Oh, and it only works if it's fresh lemon--bottled juice does not work as it is cationic.

Oh, and pianistimo, I can eat lots of fresh figs.  They're good, I don't know why you're criticizing them.  I ate two boxes of them last week.

[pianistimo]

interesting about the lemon water.  and alistari - i tend to agree about not getting diagnosed for something you already know about yourself. 

about the figs...i wasn't criticizing eating them. they're just very sweet.  i think early man didn't eat a lot of sugar.  one or two figs maybe.  nowdays - there's so much sugar in diets and it isn't released slowly like eating natural sugars.  so then we wonder why the highs and lows.  still - i eat a bite of ice-cream once in a while - but not so much pigging out anymore.  and i feel really good.  however, if one is REALLY hungry - one is bound to eat a lot of whatever is close at hand.  may as well be unpackaged and organic something.  nuts, fruit, whatever.

[ahinton]

alistari

Is that meant to be me having some fine Italian food? OK - bring on the Sassicaia!...

Best,

Alessandro

[pianistimo]

i deduce that is an italian wine.  ok.  bring it on.  just a half a glass.  i haven't drunk wine in probably a year.  wine is to me like beer is to you.  it makes metallic tastes in my mouth.

[prometheus]

All those diets are bullshit.

Only thing that works is eat less, eat healthy and exersize.

[pianistimo]

exercise is definately a good one.  like you say - you can have a good diet (whatever that is) and if you don't exercise it might just sit in your stomach.  somehow my food always digests better and i naturally eat less when i've been exercising.  it makes you drink more water.

[mike_lang]

All those diets are bullshit.

Only thing that works is eat less, eat healthy and exersize.

The only effective "diet" that I know of is Weight Watchers, the philosophy of which is basically what you describe.  One counts points, which are calculated the old-fashioned way, by calories and fat content, and is allowed a certain amount of these points to spend each day.  Quite logically, points are awarded for time spent exercising.

I set the word diet in quotes because WW, for its faithful adherents seems to be more of a long-term lifestyle choice than a quick-fix diet.

[ahinton]

i deduce that is an italian wine.

One of the very finest, indeed...

ok.  bring it on.  just a half a glass.  i haven't drunk wine in probably a year.

Shame on you!

wine is to me like beer is to you.  it makes metallic tastes in my mouth.

OK, then I take back my last comment; if all wine really does that to you, you should indeed avoid it. For the record, however, I can tell you that all beer does far worse to me than just that...

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

All those diets are bullshit.

Only thing that works is eat less, eat healthy and exersize.

Less than what? What is healthy for you? (which may not necessarily be so for the next person). Exercise has also to be prescribed individually by professionals who know just what they're talking about in each individual case; just like any kind of dietary régime, exercise programs should be tailored to the specific needs of the individual in order that certain kinds of over-exercise do not risk doing damage.

Best,

Alistair

[pianistimo]

perhaps that sassafrass - being one of the finest wines - would not bother me to drink an entire glass.  in fact, with a scottish meat pie.

[ahinton]

The only effective "diet" that I know of is Weight Watchers, the philosophy of which is basically what you describe.  One counts points, which are calculated the old-fashioned way, by calories and fat content, and is allowed a certain amount of these points to spend each day.  Quite logically, points are awarded for time spent exercising.

I set the word diet in quotes because WW, for its faithful adherents seems to be more of a long-term lifestyle choice than a quick-fix diet.

It is indeed true that the general tenets of the WW dietary régimes are some way above the wholly arbitrary contents of the "quick-fix" diet concept but, even here, WW's various régimes will will suit some better than others. For example, someone that I know who is in renal failure and is considerably overweight went on a WW régime some years ago at the behest not only of a renal consultant but also of a clinical nutritionist; that person lost no weight as a consequence, despite the fact that the records showed very positive results in terms of its points system. Both the consultant and the nutritionist concluded that the patient's largely modest and generally Mediterrnanen-oriented diet was already ideal for the condition suffered and the conclusion in this particular case was that the patient had amassed undue weight due to the ill effects of certain prescribed medication over a substantial period of time and that there was accordingly no quick-fix or even slow-fix solution, dietary or otherwise, for this problem. I admit that this is not the usual kind of situation addressed here but, in general terms, it is far from irrelevant, I think, in that, whilst it may be possible to correct the effects of bad diet with good diet over a period of time, it is far harder or perhaps impossible to counteract the ill effects of certain prescribed drugs if there is no known medicinal antidote.

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

perhaps that sassafrass - being one of the finest wines - would not bother me to drink an entire glass.  in fact, with a scottish meat pie.

Oh, dear me, Susan! "Sassafras" is nothing to do with wine; I'm not usually one to quote Wiki at anyone, but
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sassafras
The wine to which I referred is Sassicaia.

Best,

Alistair

[prometheus]

Less than what?

Less than you do.

What is healthy for you?

I know you are English (ha) but I still assume you know what is healthy and what is not. Because there's generally little dispute.

[nicco]

The only things I eat are: spaghetti, pizza, corn flakes, apples and ice cream   

No health problems.

There's a big difference between no health problems and good health.

[ahinton]

Less than you do.

But what do you know of what I do diet-wise, or what my weight or general health may be, in order for you to make a statement such as the above?

I know you are English (ha)

Then you know more about me than I do!...

but I still assume you know what is healthy and what is not. Because there's generally little dispute.

I do, of course, know well that there are certain dietary practices which are generally unhealthy but that does not alter the fact that I also know well that ideal diets are as individual as those who will stand to benefit therefrom.

Best,

Alistair

[thalberg]

ARRGGHHH.....the point of the Alkaline Diet is not weight loss, it's curing health problems.  They say that if your blood is alkaline, cancer CANNOT form anywhere in your system.

For weight loss, the most effective thing I ever tried was finding out what foods I was allergic to and quitting eating them.  Amazing how effortlessly the pounds came off, and I felt a million times better. 

[prometheus]

Haha, those two claims are even more bullshit.

[cmg]

Haha, those two claims are even more bullshit.

Tut tut. Language, prometheus.   

[prometheus]

You want me to say it in Dutch or Japanese, then?

I  could try german.

[ahinton]

You want me to say it in Dutch or Japanese, then?

I  could try german.

Or, better still, you could perhaps try to desist from making unwarranted and unsupported assumptions about the dietary habits of an alleged Englishman whom you do not know and who happens in any case to be a Scotsman; the particular language in which you may choose to do this would be up to you entirely, of course...

Best,

Alistair

[prometheus]

But what do you know of what I do diet-wise,

Better than one does.

If you want to lose weight through diet you have to eat less.

or what my weight or general health may be,

What do you have to do with it? I attack hoax diets. People that make millions claiming some specific way of eating makes you lose weight.

I say one should diet by eating less. Less than who? The amount they already eat.


You are also Scottish. Great! Ha.

[ahinton]

If you want to lose weight through diet you have to eat less.

Professional clinical nutritionists will not necessarily agree with you that this is the only route to salvation here; it is just as important to choose the most appropriate things to eat and to avoid, the timing of one's ingestions, the balance between carbohydrate, protein, etc. intake, the extent, type, frequency and timing of exercise compatible with the diet concerned and various other equally relevant issues; furthermore, the physical condition of the patient, including particular ailments that respond in certain particular ways to dietary régimes, is a vital consideration. In other words, it's far more complex than your bald statement that anyone who wants to lose excess weight should simply eat less food than they do.

Although what I am about to write is in some degree an aside from your particular point, it is also worth mentioning that losing weight through diet (which you write about) is only possible as a kind of dietary counteractive measure; in other words, one is unlikely to lose excess weight through dieting in a particular and appropriate controlled way unless that excess weight has been acquired by inappropriate dietary practice in the first place (which I admit is often the case, but by no means always so).

What do you have to do with it? I attack hoax diets. People that make millions claiming some specific way of eating makes you lose weight.

I agree with you entirely here, hence my remarks about the need for some overweight people to consult and act upon the individual personal advice provided by medically qualified nutritionists rather than resorting to the kinds of quick-fix dietary scams against which you so rightly inveigh.

I say one should diet by eating less. Less than who? The amount they already eat.

But see above; this works only in some cases where excess weight is the result of excess intake quantity only.

You are also Scottish. Great! Ha.

Nice that it's appreciated. That said, several surveys have in recent years revealed (rightly or wrongly) that the Scots have the worst dietary practice in Europe; shameful as that statistic is, let me hasten to assure you that, although I am not all that fit, I am thankfully not one of those who suffers from that kind of dietary self-abuse.

Best,

Alistair

[thalberg]

Haha, those two claims are even more bullshit.

Well the alkaline/cancer thing is a claim that I have not personally tried or experienced, so it could be bull-whatever.

But in terms of the food allergies, I lost around 25 pounds without even trying, and it's a known fact that food allergies do exist, so you can say what you want, and I'll just go on doing what I know works for me.

[electrodoc]

The alkaline diet is correct in principle but somewhat misleading. Good health depends on keeping a balanced body terrain or internal milieu and this essentially comes from good nutrition. The building blocks for our body chemistry comes from food, and our food is, in essence, the stored energy and electromagnetic information from the sun. This is why good natural organic produce grown in fertile healthy soil is always best.

The body terrain can be monitored with a few simple measurement: blood pH; blood oxidation/reduction level (rH2); and blood electrical resistance. SImilar figures are also required from the saliva and from the urine.

The ideal values (after a 12 hour fast) are:

Blood      pH = 7.3               rH2 = 22              resistance = 210 ohms

Saliva     pH = 6.5              rH2  = 22              R                = 140 ohms

Urine       pH = 6.8              rH2 = 24              R                = 30 - 40 ohms


In reality, these ideal values are rarely seen.

From the above figures, there is an equations that relates ph/rH2/R to give the energy value in microwatts.

Unfortunately, simply foloowing an alkaline diet is unlikely to work because the blood pH will not reach the ideal value if the other figures for all three fluids are wrong. The first step is to correct the resistance value of the urine. This is a measure of kidney efficiency and also of the electrolyte balance of the body. Drinking adequate quantities of good quality water (not tap water) is the first step together with trace element supplements if necessary.

I could go on at length about this topic but do not intend to do so. For those that are interest see the work of Prof. Louis-Claude Vincent.

If anyone has specific questions I would be pleased to try to answer them.

Regard

Electrodoc

[prometheus]

Haha.

Do some research proving that eating a lot of acidic food makes your blood pH significantly drop and send it to be peer reviewed to The Lancet or Nature.



If your blood pH is off then you have something serious like kidney failure, diabetes ketoacidosis or shock. It doesn't mean you have eaten too many lemons for your own good.


Yeah, throwing around some pH numbers may impress a few people. But it's all bullshit and deceptive pseudoscience.


FYI, your stomach has a pH between 2 and 3. Surely food will not acidify your body while your stomach and the rest of your gastrointestinal tract already have a very low pH.

[thalberg]

Thanks, electrodoc.  Very interesting.

[electrodoc]

Oh dear. Prometheus please re-read. I did NOT state that eating alkaline food will change the blood Ph - it will not. What I did day that health depends on some ideal figures that are based on research. (see prev.ref.) Many people have a blood pH of 7.45 or highr together with and rH2 factor that is too high. This puts them into an alkaline/oxidised state. Most degenerative conditions that we see fall into this category.
This work is straightforward science and is easy enough to follow. Of course, you are entitled to to be sceptical - I have no problem with that but please look at some of the scientific background first.

I am a medic and have specialised in helping people back to health for 30 years plus. Part of this involves educating my patients into healthy living which includes nutrition. Since I do not advertise in any way and only acceptclients by referral I think that the fact that my appointment schedule is fully booked for several months in advance speaks for itself.

[prometheus]

What are you arguing for now? The existence of a pH level that can be measured or the alkaline diet?


If you are really under the impression that alkaline diet is solid science then you are very wrong and you need to reeducate yourself really quickly since you are a professional and people should be able to trust your skills and knowledge.

Alkaline diet is pseudoscience.

[thalberg]

What are you arguing for now? The existence of a pH level that can be measured or the alkaline diet?


If you are really under the impression that alkaline diet is solid science then you are very wrong and you need to reeducate yourself really quickly since you are a professional and people should be able to trust your skills and knowledge.

Alkaline diet is pseudoscience.

Oh my goodness, prometheus, he is not arguing for the alkaline diet.  I think you are somehow skimming his posts to quickly.

[prometheus]

Only thing he said on diet was this:
"The alkaline diet is correct in principle..."

That's just false. I never disputed anything else he said.


Ooh, as for tap water. Where I live tap water is healthier and cleaner than mineral water because mineral water have extra minerals for taste. And most people already get too much salt.


Plus, water is from exactly the same source.

[thalberg]

Hey Electrodoc

You said not tapwater. What kind of water do you recommend?

Also......what do you think of the Brita water filtration pitcher?

[electrodoc]

First let me deal with the remarks of Prometheus. I stated the the alkaline ditet is correct "in principle" but not in detail or practice. As I previously stated there is an optimum pH and oxidation/reduction level for the blood (and other body fluids). If these optimum levels are obtained then there is an ideal balance of protons (pH) and electrons (rH2) to support the homoeostaic mechanisms of the body. Simply following an alkaline diet will not achieve this because other crucial figures will be out of balance and need to be attended to first.
Unfortunately, detailed discussion is far too lengthy for a post like this althjough I would be happy to expand on different aspects from time-to-time.

If our friend Prometheus is happy with his tap water then fine. I am certainly not happy. Tap water contains many trace impurities including bacterial traces, chemical residues, added chlorine and flourine. The electrical conductance value of water gives a guide to levels of purity. It is the electrolytes present in water that conducts electricity. The lower the resistance (i.e. the greater the conductance) the greater the flow of electricity. To put it simply, it is the impurities present in the water that allows electricity to flow.

Since conductance is the reciprocal of resistance I will quote resistance figures. For biological purposes the resistance value for water should be 3.5kohms or higher. London tap water has approx. 0.5 kohms resistance - not good!!  Where I live the tap water has a resistance of approx. 1kohm - still not good. Using a carbon filter jug with a fresh filter brings this up to approx 2kohms - better but below the required standard. Interestingly, Evian water is at about the same level.

The ideal water is reverse osmosis filtration which brings the value up to about 12 kohm. There is a problem for some people in that it might be prudent to take a mineral supplement if the person is electrolyte deficient. Distilled or de-ionized water is not so good because of low oxygen. Fish will die if kept in distilled water.

Most bottled mineral waters are not good either (and here I agree with Prometheus). They contian inorganic minerals which are not so good for the body. What is needed is a low mineral content. Volvic water satisfies this criteria and is one of the better bottled waters. Better still is Konigstein-Haderheck but this is almost impossible to find outside Germany.

Remember that the body needs water (not mineral waters, juices, tea, coffee, etc.) in order to remove metabolic waste and to replenish body fluids. The total quantity that should be consumed daily is related to body weight. The correct amopunt of water is 1 fluid ounce per two pounds of body weight. This should NOT be consumed all at once. The correct intake is not more than 4 ounces per 30 minutes. Thus a person who is 160lbs weight should consume 2-1/2 ounces every half hour.

I hope that these remarks will help some people.

Regards

Electrodoc

[prometheus]

Just because the human body has a range of pH values in which it operates does not mean your diet should be based on pH.

Again, the existence of pH does not mean you need to eat food with the proper pH to balance your body.

People drink soda drinks all the time. Many of them have a low pH. Only harmful for teeth as far as I know.



If you have totally new research data that proves otherwise then please share it with the rest of the world.