Who here would go anorexic and why?

[rebby]

people at school are going anorexic and i can't understand why?
Who would?

I know it is a disease in the mind and stuff, but why start starving yourself any way?

[ramithediv]

people at school are going anarexic and i can't understand why?
Who would?

I know it is a disease in the mind and stuff, but why start starving yourself any way?

They do it bacause they're brainwashed by the media into believing that women should be size 8 or smaller. They believe that anything bigger than that would be considered obese.

But, as womens brains are not connected inside properly, allowances have to be made. 

[rebby]

boh

[rebby]

But, as womens brains are not connected inside properly, allowances have to be made. 

Excuse me Ramithediv but are you trying to say something  

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lolololol

[naughtius-maximus]

people at school are going anorexic and i can't understand why?
Who would?

I know it is a disease in the mind and stuff, but why start starving yourself any way?

I think you may have answered your own question.
People don't "go" anorexic on purpose, it happens to them.

[elspeth]

Anorexia - and most eating disorders - can often have roots besides media pressure to look a certain way. One of the most common ones in children and teenagers is related to a feeling of powerlessness. Stuff happens to them - be it 'normal' pressure from school and so on, or something more sinister such as abuse - and they either haven't been taught proper coping mechanisms or it's something that they feel is outside the scope of normal coping mechanisms. They feel bad things are happening and those things are out of the child's control, so they find something they can control to give them something to cling to - and often that thing is food, because children often don't have that many things in their lives that they can make absolute decisions about.

I speak as someone who watched a friend go through anorexia as a teenager, and thankfully she recovered fully. The root of her problem was her parents' extremely messy divorce and then her subsequent problems with her new stepfather - the family situation left her feeling insecure, unloved and unvalued. She didn't know how to deal with it so she became anorexic to have something - anything - in her life that was firmly in her control. And then, when the family finally noticed how messed up she was, it became a way to get and keep their attention - the only time the fighting stopped was when she was ill enough that they pulled together to get her through.

An eating disorder is almost never an illness in itself, it's a symptom, and the underlying problems can be horrendous to sort out.

[n_n]

all becos they lack a hobby or passion such as playing the piano or coming to Pianostreet... therefore they lack some purpose for life... therefore they can be easily influenced by peer and media...

[term]

Too many girls care too much about their weight...just an observation. It begins from 13/14/15 year old girls to 60 (!) year old women, including my mother and her best friend.
You go to a restaurant, and they order....SALAD! Buy everything with 0 fat. But when you tell them, that juice has approx. as much calories as a coke, they are like "What?!? impossible". Interesting, not many people can tell the calories of any given food/drink by its consistency and taste.
They are extremely careful to not do exactly one thing: eating normal. I keep telling them, the human body is not a machine, but they won't listen.
-.-

I also knew a girl at my school who died from starvation last year. She was extremely skinny and was at the hospital half of the year. I assume it's some kind of compensation for things they don't have in life, or for bad experiences, they compensate through control over their body. I Don't know, of course.
There's also a teacher at our school who became anorexic over the last and this year. You can immediately tell, that there's something that eats them up (literally). In reverse, i assume obese people are control freaks in one aspect and in order to compensate, are uncontrolled with eating.
It's sad...

[prometheus]

Maybe it's a form of damaging your physical body in an attempt to drive out mental pain.

[thalbergmad]

I have suffered from anorexia for years.

Worringly, i am now under 300 pounds.

Thal

[soliloquy]

They do it bacause they're brainwashed by the media into believing that women should be size 8 or smaller. They believe that anything bigger than that would be considered obese.

But, as womens brains are not connected inside properly, allowances have to be made. 

I forget what country you live in, but a size 8 isn't exactly "thin" in the US.  I think usually 4/6 is "thin", and 2's and 0's are like... too thin.

[wotgoplunk]

It's psychological in most cases.

However what I hate is pro-ana sites. I absolutely despise the things, and no-one can shut them down!

All eating disorders need to be combated by a nutritionist and a psychologist, not groups of teenage girls.

(And besides, I like my curves!  )

[ramithediv]

I forget what country you live in, but a size 8 isn't exactly "thin" in the US.  I think usually 4/6 is "thin", and 2's and 0's are like... too thin.

Sorry, I never realised the numbers went lower than 8. 

[ramithediv]

Worringly, i am now under 300 pounds.

Thal

Yeah, I'm a bit skint too 

[thalbergmad]

I worry when some of the disgusting emaciated stick insects that parade up and down fashion show catwalks are sometimes seen as role models.

Personally, i don't like thin women and broom handles like Jodie Kidd makes me want to send her some burgers. I much prefer "curves", which my current girlfriend has more than her fair share of. Infact, she is almost a perfect circle.

Thal

[ramithediv]

I much prefer "curves", which my current girlfriend has more than her fair share of. Infact, she is almost a perfect circle.

Thal

Perhaps she's the one been spending your money. 

[thalbergmad]

Perhaps she's the one been spending your money. 

I am a great believer in equality. She always pays half.

Women have been fighting for equality for years. I say let them have it.

Thal

[ramithediv]

I am a great believer in equality. She always pays half.

Women have been fighting for equality for years. I say let them have it.

Thal

Yes. My wife passed her driving test the other day.   

Now we can share the driving. 

I'll drive to the pub, and she can drive back. Sorted. 

[thalbergmad]

I share my hot tub with my girlfriend.

She has the bottom half, i have the top.

Thal

[ramithediv]

I share my hot tub with my girlfriend.

She has the bottom half, i have the top.

Thal

I bet that cuts your water consumption down. 

[ada]

Of course people don't "go" anorexic on a whim.

It's not exactly a lifestyle choice despite what the pro-ano websites will tell you. A lot of these sites are actually set up by wannabes, cultural trend victims and bandwagon jumpers.

Here are a few random facts and theories about anorexia:

Many anorexics are victims of child sexual abuse.

Anorexia is a psychiatric condition and a mental health issue, but not a mental illness. Anorexia can't be 'cured'. Like alcoholism, it's with you forever and it can only be managed.

For some, starving themselves is a metaphor of wanting to "disappear" from a male dominated society. For these people it's about denial. Denial of food equates with denial of sexual appetite, denial of one's right to exist  (this is the feminist discourse)

For some, anorexia can be triggered by a consumer society that equates "skinny" with "beauty" and foists unrealistic aspirational images on young women in movies, magazines and the media (Marxist discourse)

For some, self-starvation is an attempt to stave off sexual maturity by maintaining a prepubescent body and rejecting "becoming" their mother (Freudian discourse)

For some, anorexia is about self discipline, denial and punishment. Starvation can also induce a sense of euphoria, much like meditation, or running a marathon (the aescetic's approach to eating disorders)

For some, it's a 'control' issue. Some anorexics substitute controlling what they eat for a sense of control over their lives. They reason, I mightn't be able to control other aspects of my life, but at least I can control what goes into my body.

As you can see, anorexia is no simple matter. It's complicated.

[ahinton]

I bet that cuts your water consumption down. 

It would probably be cut down quite substantially even without his girlfriend's presence.

Give me a shower any day.

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

Of course people don't "go" anorexic on a whim.

It's not exactly a lifestyle choice despite what the pro-ano websites will tell you. A lot of these sites are actually set up by wannabes, cultural trend victims and bandwagon jumpers.

Here are a few random facts and theories about anorexia:

Many anorexics are victims of child sexual abuse.

Anorexia is a psychiatric condition and a mental health issue, but not a mental illness. Anorexia can't be 'cured'. Like alcoholism, it's with you forever and it can only be managed.

For some, starving themselves is a metaphor of wanting to "disappear" from a male dominated society. For these people it's about denial. Denial of food equates with denial of sexual appetite, denial of one's right to exist  (this is the feminist discourse)

For some, anorexia can be triggered by a consumer society that equates "skinny" with "beauty" and foists unrealistic aspirational images on young women in movies, magazines and the media (Marxist discourse)

For some, self-starvation is an attempt to stave off sexual maturity by maintaining a prepubescent body and rejecting "becoming" their mother (Freudian discourse)

For some, anorexia is about self discipline, denial and punishment. Starvation can also induce a sense of euphoria, much like meditation, or running a marathon (the aescetic's approach to eating disorders)

For some, it's a 'control' issue. Some anorexics substitute controlling what they eat for a sense of control over their lives. The figure, I mightn't be able to control other aspects of my life, but at least I can control what goes into my body.

As you can see, anorexia is no simple matter. It's complicated.

Ah - a welcome beacon of good sense! I'm not quite sure, however, that I share your pessimistic view that in no cases can anorexia be cured; I've known a number of people who've suffered from it very badly and seem to have gotten through the experience and come out the other side of it in a state of full and sustained (so far) recovery).

Bst,

Alistair

[ada]

Ah - a welcome beacon of good sense! I'm not quite sure, however, that I share your pessimistic view that in no cases can anorexia be cured; I've known a number of people who've suffered from it very badly and seem to have gotten through the experience and come out the other side of it in a state of full and sustained (so far) recovery).

Bst,

Alistair

Yeah, true Alistair, but we never really know exactly what goes on inside someone else's head, do we?

[pianowolfi]

I much prefer "curves", which my current girlfriend has more than her fair share of. Infact, she is almost a perfect circle.

My current girlfriend is a perfect 0 since she doesn't exist. How is that for a skinniness record?

[ahinton]

I have suffered from anorexia for years.

Worringly, i am now under 300 pounds.

Thal

1 out of 10 for helpfulness; 8 out of 10 for light relief (although I'm not so sure that an avoirdupois approaching 300 pounds - which I'm nevertheless sure you do not possess - qualifies for "light" anything...)

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

I forget what country you live in, but a size 8 isn't exactly "thin" in the US.  I think usually 4/6 is "thin", and 2's and 0's are like... too thin.

Perhaps this might arguably be seen as symptomatic of the notion that the most vociferous promoters of the skinny obsession are of US origin; over here in UK, 8 is regarded as slim, 6 and below thin and possibly skinny.

Best,

Alistair

[ahinton]

Yeah, true Alistair, but we never really know exactly what goes on inside someone else's head, do we?

More often than not, we don't, no. That said, at least it has now become generally recognised and accepted that the disease is of psychological origin and the professionals that can best help with cases of it are clinical nutritionists to deal with the symptoms and psychiatrists to address the causes.

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

My current girlfriend is a perfect 0 since she doesn't exist. How is that for a skinniness record?

A good looking bloke like yourself with no girlfriend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why don't you join the SCCCA, there should be lots of girls there.

Thal

[pianowolfi]

A good looking bloke like yourself with no girlfriend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why don't you join the SCCCA, there should be lots of girls there.

Thal

https://sccca.isaac00.com/

   slightly confused I can't read Chinese.

[thalbergmad]

I meant the "Swiss Cuckoo Clock Collectors Association".

I don't think they have a website yet.

Thal

[pianowolfi]

I meant the "Swiss Cuckoo Clock Collectors Association".

I don't think they have a website yet.

Thal

Thal I feel bad for going so much off topic in an actually serious thread. I have recorded my original Swiss Interpretation of a cuckoo for you here:

https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php/topic,27080.msg311179.html#msg311179

[soliloquy]

I'd go anorexic if I didn't like to eat.  Then it would be easy.  But usually when I don't eat for a while, my tummy is like "dayum pregnant dog u need to eat!" and I'm like "ok."

[thalbergmad]

Me is taking Hoodia.

Seems to work for me.

Thal

[ahinton]

Me is taking Hoodia.

Seems to work for me.

Thal

That's it. Hug a hoodia. David Cameron said so.

Best,

Alistair

[pianistimo]

oprah winfrey endorses green tea.

[thalbergmad]

Hmm, wonder if she gets paid for doing it?

[rc]

I know a guy who went on the too-poor-to-buy-food diet and lost probably over 100 pounds, but yes - he has many underlying issues.

Mind poison is out there, but the individual has the choice to accept it or reject it.