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Topic: Advice for a Grand Purchase on the 10k-20k€ range  (Read 2372 times)

Offline mad_max2024

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Advice for a Grand Purchase on the 10k-20k€ range
on: October 22, 2007, 10:46:26 PM
Hello
I'm currently on the market looking for a new grand piano.
I live in Portugal and have been to a few sellers.
I have an upright pearl river which I will keep for more furious practice and for my 8 year old sister hammering-like practice since it's a sturdy piano that can withstand a good beating.
But I want a more sensible piano with wider dynamics for my own practice and home exhibition.

I figure since I'm reluctant to spend more than 20k and I see no real advantage in buying a new piano, that I'll settle for a used one in good condition.
I've been looking in sellers and they showed me a Samick, which I loathed; a couple of older pianos (A.Forster and I cant remember the other one's brand) which needed restoring and loads of yamahas. Also a G.Lehmann which didnt seem too bad but which I wasnt that enthusiastic about either.

I've played in a Bosendorfer 214 a couple months back and I really loved it, but I doubt I'll be able to find one at 20000€  :(
The more interesting deals I saw seemed to be on a used Yamaha C3 for sale at  12900€ which I played in and found to have a pleasing sound and touch.
Also on a C.Bechstein B210 that one of the sellers was restoring and claimed to have for sale in a month or two at "Dont want it to exceed 10000€ by too much"
I've never played on a Bechstein but he said he would give me the chance to try it out once it's restored.

I'm well aware that retail sellers have a great urge to rip you off so I was thinking to hear some opinions from you guys on the Yamaha and the Bechstein and also any suggestions you may have on good Grands at 20000€ or less.
I will also check with my teacher wednesday and see what he says.

Any help would be appreciated  :)
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Offline richard black

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Re: Advice for a Grand Purchase on the 10k-20k€ range
Reply #1 on: October 23, 2007, 04:17:32 PM
Older Yamaha C3 pianos are OK, modern ones aren't up to much, to my mind - wobbly action and not very long-lived. Bechstein have had ups and downs, like any long-established maker, but their pianos are basically very good as long as they've been looked after a bit. They're certainly reliable in the long term.
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Offline grandamericanpiano

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Re: Advice for a Grand Purchase on the 10k-20k€ range
Reply #2 on: October 28, 2007, 12:34:50 AM
Have you considered a fully restored American Piano such as Baldwin, Knabe, Chickering, Etc.?  More and more of those "golden era" pianos built between 1900-1930 are being exported to Europe.  Fully restored, they are ,in my opinion, the best deal under 20K.  Your welcome to visit my web site https://www.grandamericanpiano.com for more details.   
 

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