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Offline patty

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Question about staccato/slur combination
on: October 30, 2007, 02:16:02 PM
I am an old grandma trying to reconnect with my music.  Haven't really studied for years and now I find I've forgotten what some things mean.  Please tell me how to play a slur that has staccato marks over each note. 
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Re: Question about staccato/slur combination
Reply #1 on: October 30, 2007, 03:59:43 PM
This is a technique called portato (not portamento as some people will mistakenly claim).  It's audibly comparable to an organist repeating a note; it isn't legato, but there is a tiny bit of space between each note and a new impulse on each.

When Chopin writes this articulation, he wants a delicate pulsing sound, like light rain-drops (see Etude op.25 no.2).  When Bartok uses it, he wants a specific amount of space in between each note.

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Re: Question about staccato/slur combination
Reply #2 on: October 30, 2007, 04:10:54 PM
Thanks for the reply...I'm studing Beethoven's Tempest and it occurs in the first measure with the notation of "ma marc" under it.  I am not specifically familiar with this term but gathered that some sort of emphasis should be placed on these two notes.
  Again I appreciate your responding.
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Re: Question about staccato/slur combination
Reply #3 on: October 30, 2007, 05:01:17 PM
Hmm... ma marcato means, "but marked," as in, "portato, but marked."  What edition are you using?  It's a superfluous remark because portato is in itself a sort of emphasis.

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Re: Question about staccato/slur combination
Reply #4 on: October 30, 2007, 06:00:44 PM
I am using music from 1 of 2 bound volumns from the carl fischer music library No. 801 and 802 revised by Eugene D'Albert that were handed down to me by my great uncle who was a pianist from Russia.  A date written by my uncle was 1920.  Perhaps this edition is in error?
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Re: Question about staccato/slur combination
Reply #5 on: October 30, 2007, 10:20:17 PM
Interesting edition!  I've never seen it but it is always good to have old ones, they are infinitely more interesting than modern, sanitized ones.  In the Schenker edition, there is no such marking, ma marcato, and I've studied the Tempest, and never seen that mark in the first bar.  It's not necessarily wrong, but just not necessary to mention.

I don't know if Beethoven wrote it or not because I have never seen the manuscript, but I doubt it.

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Re: Question about staccato/slur combination
Reply #6 on: November 16, 2007, 03:34:09 PM
As already mentioned, a slur with staccato marking is a non-legato touch. Good luck in getting back into piano playing again.
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