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Offline wenat

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Schumann piano concerto,op 54
on: November 15, 2007, 07:34:29 AM
I'm in a bit of a fix here.  I need the full score of the concerto for a student to do a bar by bar analysis, and being in a 3rd world country cannot seem to get my hands on the score.  I have a piano reduction, but need the full orchestral score.  Any help?  Greatly appreciated.

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Re: Schumann piano concerto,op 54
Reply #1 on: November 16, 2007, 07:21:20 PM
I did use to have this, but my anti virus software erased it.

Sorry.

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Re: Schumann piano concerto,op 54
Reply #2 on: November 16, 2007, 07:40:17 PM
i'm surprised that indiana state 'variations' project which typically had a lot of scores for students to study is now also somewhat defunct and cleared of obviously out-of-copyright but still wanting to be sold music.  this is like the way credit card companies function nowdays.  it's robbery actually - but hey - there are always musicians that are willing to share.  and, if you need to purchase the score - go to pepper music at www.peppermusic.com  .  they are quite reasonable.

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Re: Schumann piano concerto,op 54
Reply #3 on: November 16, 2007, 07:46:36 PM
*  i think avguste? requested an analysis in the student theory thread - but that was back november 1st.  since your request is more recent - i can give you a bit of background on the schumann from a book entitled 'a history of the concerto' by michael thomas roeder (pages 252-255)

'the Piano Concerto is a highly unified work; the first movement's opening theme mm.4-11 is the source of thematic material in every movement.  the theme is highly characteristic of schumann's writing.  there is a strong contrast between the first and second four bars.  the first phrase emphasizes the downbeat and clear stepwise motion, with the third and fourth bars nicely paralleling the first two.  the second phrase introduces syncopations tending to obliterate the downbeat; furthermore, a dramatic, large leap preceding the first syncopation, some smaller skips, greater chromaticism in the melodic line, and more frequent changes of direction give this phrase an altogether different character.  (perhaps an illustration of schumann's two imaginary characters - floristan and eusebius).

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Re: Schumann piano concerto,op 54
Reply #4 on: November 16, 2007, 08:02:06 PM
ok.  on with the schumann analysis - 'transformation of this theme is central to schumann's compositional approach in this concerto.  the main theme returns in the final movement in various forms (mm. 67-70 and mm.156-158  and mm. 205-208 and 402-407). , is the clear basis of the finale's first theme (III. Allegro vivace mm.1-4), and provides important motivic material in the second movement.  the first transformation of the main theme serves as the opening movement's animated second theme mm. 67-70, presented in the clarinet to the accompaniment of the piano.'

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Re: Schumann piano concerto,op 54
Reply #5 on: November 16, 2007, 08:17:14 PM
'this transformation incorporates clear references to the theme's two opening motives, but its most distinctive feature is the descending octave followed immediately by the rising tenth, which is an outgrowth of m 8.   the development section opens in a slower tempo, andante espressivo, with a nocturne-like setting of the main theme in A-flat major in 6/4  time.  a much faster, passionato, transformation of the theme, with an important leap of a sixth and striking syncopationmm205-208 - brings the development to a close.  rising sequences bring still greater intensity to this portion of the development.  the coda contains yet another transformation mm 402-407 - of the main theme into an allegro molto march in 2/4 time. 

even though the first movement was originally identified as a fantasy, it is in sonata-allegro form.  the three-measure introduction to the Allegro affettuoso first movement is powerful and attention-getting; it is another with its roots clearly in beethoven's emperor concerto.  a short, single statement of octave E's in the orchestra is followed by a forceful, rhythmically energetic chordal cascade in the piano, unaccompanied.  this idea makes only one return, where it dominates the middle of the development section, bringing a sudden, shocking halt to the slower, expressive 6/4 section.'

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Re: Schumann piano concerto,op 54
Reply #6 on: November 17, 2007, 04:42:25 AM
Wow!  I ask for help finding a concerto and get a whole soap opera to go with it.. :-\ Thanks for the analysis along the way though, and the link to find the music, greatly appreciated!  As for which country....it's Thailand, and we only have a handful of music shops here, and they hold mainly piano music.  Am trying online, just wasn't sure where the best place to go is.  Thanks all!

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Re: Schumann piano concerto,op 54
Reply #7 on: December 17, 2007, 07:47:13 AM
Here you are....

Enjoy


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EDIT: File removed by me.
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Re: Schumann piano concerto,op 54
Reply #8 on: December 17, 2007, 08:10:16 AM
Here you are....

Enjoy


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He requested the full score. And you should probably remove this. I think it is in the pianostreet library.

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Re: Schumann piano concerto,op 54
Reply #9 on: December 17, 2007, 11:17:38 PM
He requested the full score. And you should probably remove this. I think it is in the pianostreet library.


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