Piano Forum

Piano Street Magazine:
A Sudden Chat with Paul Lewis about Beethoven & Schubert

Substituting for the suddenly indisposed Janine Jensen, pianist Paul Lewis shares his ideas on his global Schubert project, classical repertoire focus and views on titans Beethoven vs. Schubert. Read more

Topic: scale  (Read 3430 times)

Offline sharonlovespiano

  • PS Silver Member
  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 54
scale
on: November 17, 2007, 10:58:13 AM
What kind of (tone) scale is the following one:

C  Db  Eb  F  G  Ab  B  C

I think it has a name or something.. It looks like c minor with a lower d, but I don't know, it can be everything...
Thanks!

Sharon

pianopianopianopiano

Offline counterpoint

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 2003
Re: scale
Reply #1 on: November 17, 2007, 12:18:57 PM
In which context does this scale appear?
If it doesn't work - try something different!

Offline sharonlovespiano

  • PS Silver Member
  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 54
Re: scale
Reply #2 on: November 17, 2007, 04:48:23 PM
In which context does this scale appear?

Just the notes Ligeti uses in the melody of 'fanfares'
pianopianopianopiano

Offline mcgillcomposer

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 839
Re: scale
Reply #3 on: November 17, 2007, 05:34:07 PM
What kind of (tone) scale is the following one:

C  Db  Eb  F  G  Ab  B  C

I think it has a name or something.. It looks like c minor with a lower d, but I don't know, it can be everything...
Thanks!

Sharon



Hi Sharon,

This mode has been used in great amounts during the 20th century. It is known as the Neapolitan Minor. Evidently, the term Neapolitan comes from the flattened second degree; I think the 'minor' aspect is obvious.
Asked if he had ever conducted any Stockhausen,Sir Thomas Beecham replied, "No, but I once trod in some."

Offline mknueven

  • PS Silver Member
  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 70
Re: scale
Reply #4 on: January 28, 2008, 09:35:31 PM
Mcgill,
that's interesting - is the neapolitan scale usually used in the harmonic minor?

Offline mcgillcomposer

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 839
Re: scale
Reply #5 on: February 05, 2008, 09:23:50 PM
You often see it used as a variant, simply because it is so close to the harmonic minor; however, more often than not, the modal character that lies so distinctly in the flattened second degree is preserved.
Asked if he had ever conducted any Stockhausen,Sir Thomas Beecham replied, "No, but I once trod in some."

Offline tompilk

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1247
Re: scale
Reply #6 on: February 05, 2008, 10:17:22 PM
this is when i wish i understood theory...
Working on: Schubert - Piano Sonata D.664, Ravel - Sonatine, Ginastera - Danzas Argentinas

Offline mknueven

  • PS Silver Member
  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 70
Re: scale
Reply #7 on: February 08, 2008, 12:01:53 AM
as a variant?
meaning it varies in how it's used?
For more information about this topic, click search below!

Piano Street Magazine:
The Complete Piano Works of 16 Composers

Piano Street’s digital sheet music library is constantly growing. With the additions made during the past months, we now offer the complete solo piano works by sixteen of the most famous Classical, Romantic and Impressionist composers in the web’s most pianist friendly user interface. Read more
 

Logo light pianostreet.com - the website for classical pianists, piano teachers, students and piano music enthusiasts.

Subscribe for unlimited access

Sign up

Follow us

Piano Street Digicert
Customer Reviews