Fingering of Chopin Etude Winter Wind Op.25 No 11

[majax]

Hello,

I want to begin to explore the study of Chopin Op 25 No 11 because I find it very beautiful, but also very difficult.

I does not take piano lessons, so I would like to know if the fingering of the partitions that I found on the Internet is the best.

I joined to my message the first descent of piece

What do you think of the fingering on the right hand on the first descent?

Is that the most used by most pianists, as in these videos?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T77OMdP6_ww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kql_ztVUjOA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ8rG8DFYAg



What fingering can you advise me for the whole of the descent?



I would like to apologize for my English because I am not English.

Thank you very much.

[dnephi]

I recommend a 3 on the third note of the RH figuration instead of the 4.

[pianiststrongbad]

My fingering of the first run, is 5241 4231 4231 5241 5241 5241 etc..
Though, my fingering changes for the runs that are in other keys. 

Here is my video of this from a year and a half ago:

[ahkow]

i think the fingering for the descending sextuplets in most editions would be 524132 514251 524152 415241 etc.

the second section which requires crossing under the thumb should be 524152 415241 524152 415241 etc. I sort of gave up this piece after the first page.

Cortot has other fingerings but i don't really agree with them.

All the best in learning this song 

[mike_lang]

5231 4231 4231 5241 5241 5241 is my (Cortot's, I believe) fingering - I've found it to yield a superior legato and allow a smoother motion.

[ahkow]

Not trying to sound fussy or anything but why is it that you put all the fingerings in numbers of 4? I thought each fingering should be in sets of 6s like the septuples in the score. My apologies i don't understand how to read the fingering.

[mike_lang]

Not trying to sound fussy or anything but why is it that you put all the fingerings in numbers of 4? I thought each fingering should be in sets of 6s like the septuples in the score. My apologies i don't understand how to read the fingering.

It clarifies the hand position - for me, at least, it facilitates the passage to see each change of position.

But if you like:

523142 314231 524152 415241

Best,
ML

[ahkow]

Oh. Thanks very much for clarifying (: . There's an edition by Jan Ekier who's the new editor after Padrewski. He may provide some extra fingerings (Just like he did for Etude Op.10 No.2 or Op. 25 No. 6.) Haven't really seen the book though

[majax]

Thank you very much for those details.

Indeed, these new fingerings you propose seem better than the originals.

And for those who have played this study, how long did you take to play this at the right speed ?

[pianiststrongbad]

I studied this for about four months before I performed it, in the video link above.  Though, this is nowhere close to the metronome marking Chopin wrote.

[majax]

Ok, thank you for this information, yes it's true that the metronome wrote by chopin is very fast.

Moreover, I would like to tell you that your version of this study is very beautiful, congratulations 

[jinfiesto]

Not trying to sound fussy or anything but why is it that you put all the fingerings in numbers of 4? I thought each fingering should be in sets of 6s like the septuples in the score. My apologies i don't understand how to read the fingering.

It's how the gesture is grouped. The way notes are grouped on the page has absolutely nothing to do with how they are played other than their rhythmic value. Trying to use the bracketing of the notes to form gestures, is at best, stupid.