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Topic: Rach3 and Le Festin D'esope  (Read 1721 times)

Offline alpacinator1

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Rach3 and Le Festin D'esope
on: December 28, 2007, 11:38:46 PM
I just noticed that the opening of Rach3 sounds very similar to the theme of Alkan's Le Festin D'esope.

Do you think Rachmaninoff borrowed that melody from Alkan?

Am I just overthinking this or have any of you noticed this as well?

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Offline jakev2.0

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Re: Rach3 and Le Festin D'esope
Reply #1 on: December 28, 2007, 11:50:48 PM
Yep, they are a bit similar, though to me Alkan's sounds distinctly Hassidic/Hebraic/Jewish whilst Rachmaninoff's sounds Russian/Slavic.

I think they're both spontaneous and original creations.

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Re: Rach3 and Le Festin D'esope
Reply #2 on: December 29, 2007, 12:31:31 AM
Yep, they are a bit similar, though to me Alkan's sounds distinctly Hassidic/Hebraic/Jewish .

Why do you think it sound particulary hasidic? Indeed it sound jewish/habraic, but distinctly hasidic? Does hasidic music differ much from other european jewish music?

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Re: Rach3 and Le Festin D'esope
Reply #3 on: December 29, 2007, 12:40:52 AM
Yes, the two pieces are definately different. But I just think the first few seconds of each of them sound quite similar. Not EXACTLY the same, but similar.
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