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Offline shadow88

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Volodos + Liszt's Vallée D'Obermann?!
on: January 13, 2008, 12:21:22 PM
Hello
I have a CD from Sony Classical "Volodos plays Liszt"
As first track he plays Vallée D'Obermann. But what he plays the last 2 minutes is much more difficult than that what the other pianists in youtube play. By the way, I cant find his version as sheet music.
Does somebody know this version or do you have the sheet music of the last part?
I made an mp3 excerpt of the last part..
What is he playing 0:28 and 0:59??
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Re: Volodos + Liszt's Vallée D'Obermann?!
Reply #1 on: January 14, 2008, 12:01:16 AM
Hello
I have a CD from Sony Classical "Volodos plays Liszt"
As first track he plays Vallée D'Obermann. But what he plays the last 2 minutes is much more difficult than that what the other pianists in youtube play. By the way, I cant find his version as sheet music.
Does somebody know this version or do you have the sheet music of the last part?
I made an mp3 excerpt of the last part..
What is he playing 0:28 and 0:59??
...

  I play the Horowitz version, but strongly feel what volodos does to this piece is a travesty.
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Re: Volodos + Liszt's Vallée D'Obermann?!
Reply #2 on: January 14, 2008, 03:55:27 PM
It's really ridiculou
I play the Horowitz version, but strongly feel what volodos does to this piece is a travesty.
Amen.  Except that I don't play the Horowitz version.
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Re: Volodos + Liszt's Vallée D'Obermann?!
Reply #3 on: February 05, 2008, 04:46:59 AM
There are different opinions on embellishing scores.  And nothing against Volodos--in fact, I really like his piano transcriptions of the Rachmaninoff songs.  My stance though on this one is that I'm perfectly content to play "Vallee D'Obermann" exactly as Liszt wrote it.  To me this score is superb as is.   :)
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Re: Volodos + Liszt's Vallée D'Obermann?!
Reply #4 on: February 05, 2008, 07:43:19 PM
I wonder what Liszt would have thought?

Would he have ever played it the same way twice?

With Liszt, you can do as you will, as he would have done so himself.

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Re: Volodos + Liszt's Vallée D'Obermann?!
Reply #5 on: February 05, 2008, 09:58:49 PM
Well, of course there is that train of thought too.  Mahler was once asked about others making changes to his scores.  His reply was "If it will sound better, you not only can, but have the obligation to do it."  Yet Ravel once said that there is no need to interpret his music, simply to play it as written.  I agree that Liszt would likely be quite tolerant of changes during performance.  And Bach lived in a time when improvisation within a performance was expected and encouraged.  Yet it's difficult to generalize.  It depends on having a sense of the specific composer.  I must admit that I have made a couple of subtle changes in the Rachmaninoff Preludes to make Rachmaninoff's music sound more like Rachmaninoff, and believe that if he were still among us, I could convince him.  :)  But I still prefer Valley D'Obermann the way it was originally conceived. 
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Re: Volodos + Liszt's Vallée D'Obermann?!
Reply #6 on: May 23, 2010, 10:37:01 AM
Do you know where to find the score of the Horowitz version ? Many thanks for your help...

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Re: Volodos + Liszt's Vallée D'Obermann?!
Reply #7 on: June 03, 2010, 05:30:41 PM
I'm actually extremely interested in the Horowitz version.  I studied the piece this year, and really want to see the differences in scores.  Another request for it  ;)
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Re: Volodos + Liszt's Vallée D'Obermann?!
Reply #8 on: June 03, 2010, 09:39:48 PM
What's up with always playing as many notes as possible?! It's so boring...

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Re: Volodos + Liszt's Vallée D'Obermann?!
Reply #9 on: June 08, 2010, 11:15:19 PM
I really like his version... I don't think more notes makes it necessarily worse, although admittedly it doesn't automatically make it better. Though I do prefer thicker textures.
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