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Topic: mozart´s "bread and butter" (Read 17409 times)

floschiavo

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mozart´s "bread and butter"

on: June 18, 2008, 01:26:44 PM

Hi! Someone could tell me how can I get the sheet music of "bread and butter", by Mozart? I can´t find it ...

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dnephi

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Re: mozart´s "bread and butter"

Reply #1 on: June 18, 2008, 11:41:10 PM

Nope, don't think such a thing exists.

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Re: mozart´s "bread and butter"

Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 05:27:35 PM

It probably has a different name.

Mylene Klass has played it, which is reason enough to avoid it like the plague anyway.

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lolo_dodo

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Re: mozart´s "bread and butter"

Reply #3 on: June 20, 2008, 05:15:09 PM

https://notes.xmb.ru/archive/1731/7050.pdf

But not sure it is really from Mozart

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lolo

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saturn_pianist

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Re: mozart´s "bread and butter"

Reply #4 on: July 04, 2008, 05:41:55 PM

Quote from: dnephi on June 18, 2008, 11:41:10 PM

Nope, don't think such a thing exists.

OF COURSE IT EXISTS!!!!

My ex-teacher (ha!) performed this for me one day. But I just don't have the music for it, sorry.

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aewanko

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Re: mozart´s "bread and butter"

Reply #5 on: July 05, 2008, 02:32:13 AM

what a hoax.

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elbert

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Re: mozart´s "bread and butter"

Reply #6 on: July 08, 2008, 01:35:32 AM

Quote from: aewanko on July 05, 2008, 02:32:13 AM

what a hoax.

I know it can be very frustrating but maybe its Peanut Butter and Jelly.

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chopinmozart7

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Re: mozart´s "bread and butter"

Reply #7 on: August 09, 2008, 07:37:06 PM

eeee

do you mean what bread and butter he ate;

or am i wrong $:-\$

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momopi

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Re: mozart´s "bread and butter"

Reply #8 on: August 20, 2008, 02:05:05 PM

tartine beurre - RH plays with one finger only.

HOW is this possible?

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bernhard

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Re: mozart´s "bread and butter"

Reply #9 on: August 26, 2008, 05:52:39 PM

Not a hoax. But a musical joke.

Not Mozart at its best. But Mozart nevertheless.

Good glissando practice.

Right hand to be played with only one finger, but not necessarily the same finger. Use 3rd finger for ascending glissandos and acciacaturas and use thumb for descending ones.

A better quality piece at the same level of difficulty, and with glissandos as well (if that is the attraction), is Clementi´s “Grand Waltz”

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

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aewanko

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Re: mozart´s "bread and butter"

Reply #10 on: August 26, 2008, 11:58:48 PM

Quote from: bernhard on August 26, 2008, 05:52:39 PM

Not a hoax. But a musical joke.

Not Mozart at its best. But Mozart nevertheless.

Good glissando practice.

Right hand to be played with only one finger, but not necessarily the same finger. Use 3rd finger for ascending glissandos and acciacaturas and use thumb for descending ones.

A better quality piece at the same level of difficulty, and with glissandos as well (if that is the attraction), is Clementi´s “Grand Waltz”

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

So you're saying that this is real after all? Well, I never saw it in the Kochel catalogue.

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bernhard

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Re: mozart´s "bread and butter"

Reply #11 on: August 27, 2008, 02:23:56 AM

Of course it is real. Supposedly Mozart composed it when he was 5 years old. Then some attribute it to Leopold Mozart (Mozart´s father).

See for yourself:

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(although both pianists cheat by not playing the whole of the right hand with only one finger – it makes it more difficult, but also more amusing).

Here:

https://www.mozartforum.com/VB_forum/archive/index.php/t-1553.html

you will find a discussion on the authenticity of this piece (i.e., is it really by Mozart?)

Best wishes,
Bernhard

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concerto_love

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Re: mozart´s "bread and butter"

Reply #12 on: August 27, 2008, 01:28:19 PM

whoa, so it's real?!!

Cool, sir!! Really cool!!!

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pianovirus

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Re: mozart´s "bread and butter"

Reply #13 on: August 28, 2008, 02:13:02 PM

I have a recording of an encore played but Katsaris. I didn't know what it was, but now that I've heard this Mozart, I think it's a (friendly and charming) parody of this piece, I guess by himself.
EDIT: just listened to it again at home and found out it's actually not a parody but the piece itself....

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momopi

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Re: mozart´s "bread and butter"

Reply #14 on: September 05, 2008, 07:34:44 PM

So, I have to play with one finger RH even in non-glissando passages?
Or does this apply only to glissando passages?

Thanks!

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mlgrise

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Re: mozart´s "bread and butter"

Reply #15 on: August 10, 2022, 11:23:00 PM

Such an old topic, but I had to reply. I learned this piece as a child, and I continue to play 50 years later. I love it!

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