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Topic: History of Chopin Scherzo No. 4?  (Read 7429 times)

Offline patteeheeadidas

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History of Chopin Scherzo No. 4?
on: June 19, 2008, 05:39:51 PM
Do you know of any background information or inspiration of this piece? All I know at the moment is that it was his last scherzo.  ???
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Offline slobone

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Re: History of Chopin Scherzo No. 4?
Reply #1 on: June 19, 2008, 10:49:00 PM
Well, it's opus 54, not Opus Posthumus, so we know it's not one of those pieces he wrote after he was dead...

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Re: History of Chopin Scherzo No. 4?
Reply #2 on: June 19, 2008, 11:08:43 PM
Oh, OK. Apparently he wrote it about 1843. Here's a facsimile of one of the first published editions.

https://chopin.lib.uchicago.edu/gsdl/cgi-bin/library?a=d&c=chopin&d=CHOP143.1

And it sounds like the only one of that four that's actually jokey in parts. At least as performed by Ivo Pogorelich...

PS Except I have a feeling those trills in thirds are no joke...

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Re: History of Chopin Scherzo No. 4?
Reply #3 on: June 20, 2008, 03:35:21 AM
Well, it's opus 54, not Opus Posthumus, so we know it's not one of those pieces he wrote after he was dead...

It's amazing Chopin was able to compose the Op.posth. at all considering medical science wasn't as advanced as it is today.

Did you know that Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones has been dead for five years and he's is still performing! ;D

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