Liebestraum nr.3

[Logar]

Hey all!

I know this topic might have been posted several times, but somehow I couldn't find it anywhere (might have overlooked it) But I was wondering if anyone could give me some help with the two "hard" parts in this piece, think those who know the piece knows what I'm talking about. First of all i need help with the fingerings, I've heard there are two ways to play em. The one is the most played I think where you play it as written, but the other one is where you kinda split up into chords and then switching between right and left hand... Which one do you prefer?

Thank folks!

[donjuan]

I played this piece a long time ago, and I dont know which "hard part" you are talking about.  Perhaps you could give bar numbers?
donjuan  

[Logar]

Hey Donjuan...

Hmm guess the first run is just before the "piu animato con passione" and the second Is just before the last time the theme returns... What do you suggest for fingerings? I've split the first run up so it's divided into chords. Works fine when going upwards, but can't really figure a way to get "downwards" again...
I got a version from August Schmid-Lindner - if this helps you.

[donjuan]

Im always interested in finding easier ways to get the same thing, but I cant help but think that the cadenzas would sound and look clumsy if your hands are getting all tangled up, switching around from hand to hand.  In many works of Liszt, you are forced to play the notes with the fingers as written, this being an exception.  I would play the notes with hands as written for both cadenzas.  Later on, when you try other works of Liszt, you will encounter more difficult cadenzas, and you will be wishing you learned how to do them as written, because Liszt would hve made it so you have no choice.  You will probably have difficulties because you will have to be extra innovative to avoid problems.  Save your energy and trust Liszt.  Buy Urtext editions of Music whenever possible to avoid the editors interpretation of Liszt.  YOU will be your best editor.  Another reason to get used to doing things the obvious way, is the melody of the first cadenza that would be difficult to bring out with modified chords.  You will probably end up losing some notes due to the overpowering of the dominant fingers.

Finally, keep in mind you are playing Liszt.  He was the greatest pianist in the world, who could swoon any of the ladies just with a look.  He was the ultimate pop star of the 19th century.  Do you think him doing things the easy way would impress as much as the honest way?
donjuan

[goansongo]

I know exactly what two parts of the song you're talking about because really, those two parts are the only fast parts of the song.  The way I got through with it was to practice it very slow and memorizing the notes.  Even if you think you're ready to move faster, play it again and again.  If you can play it perfectly 5 times in a row at a certain tempo, THEN you can move on.  Otherwise, stay at that tempo until you can do it.

[donjuan]

I know exactly what two parts of the song you're talking about because really, those two parts are the only fast parts of the song.  The way I got through with it was to practice it very slow and memorizing the notes.  Even if you think you're ready to move faster, play it again and again.  If you can play it perfectly 5 times in a row at a certain tempo, THEN you can move on.  Otherwise, stay at that tempo until you can do it.

you know, reading the whole post is a good idea...
lol!!