Czerny or Hanon?

[Logar]

Hey,

Just wondering: Which of the two composers excercises are best?

[belvoce]

I've played some of Hanon and am quite happy with his exercises. However I have never played anything by Czerny, so I'm not really sure is one is better than another.

[zhiliang]

I once heard that the Russian conservatories will make their students do Hanon and to be able to do them in any key, any specified tempo, any form of touches and the likes. They have to pass a very strict test before they can proceed on. Then the advanced students will proceed on to the Czerny studies.

But why not take the best out of both composers and do the particular studies that will help you on your weak points. And also not forgetting the Chopin studies.

Zhiliang

[zhiliang]

I believe i have came across a set of exercises known as Liszt technical exercises, have anyone tried them?

Zhiliang

[faulty_damper]

As technical exercises, it's a tie OR there is no comparison.  They both do different things depending on what you want to play.

Czerny wrote his exercises to be musical.  Hanon did not.

Hanon focuses almost solely on the movement of the fingers.  Czerny does not.

Czerny wrote his exercises as an aid to the technical demands of Beethoven's piano sonatas.  Hanon wrote his exercises for those who don't have time to practice any repetory.

Both are a complete waste of time if you want to strive for efficiency in playing actual repetory.  Unless you want to be the best Czerny player or Hanon player, those exercises are pretty much useless by themselves.

Imagine a world where "exercises" were not written in such a manner.  That was the year 1801.

[glamfolk]

Neither.

[janice]

Hanon is great if you don't want to think, but just want to move your fingers--lol.  I have done Hanon while watching tv.  Shhhhh--don't tell my teacher--lol

[bernhard]

Hey,

Just wondering: Which of the two composers excercises are best?

Scarlatti sonatas. Definitely.

[Hmoll]

COMPOSERS?  HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!

Actually both can be useful if practiced correctly.

[Piazzo22]

COMPOSERS?  HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!

HAHAHAHAHHAA... , sorry, HAHA... (it´s difficult to me to focus on a matematically correct laugh)
What did you think they were? Personal trainers?  

[erak]

Composers? For Czerny, yes. He wrote amazing sonata's and stuff, at the level of Haydn and Beethoven, just no one knows about them.

Hanon is good if you start playing the piano, when you're more advanced, Czerny is the way to go. Czerny also teaches you to play techniques with an accompaniment, Hanon just makes your fingers more flexible and gives you more control over your fingers, and that's it, but Czerny does all that as wlel.

[Motrax]

I never liked playing Czerny excercises for whatever reason.

Hanon's excercises are very good (in my opinion) for first, second, and maybe third year students. That early on, students probably need to focus more on simple style and form rather than building reperatoire. Hanon's are very good for gaining endurance, especially if you play many many excercises in a row. They help shape your hand and fingers into good form, too.

[Hmoll]

HAHAHAHAHHAA... , sorry, HAHA... (it´s difficult to me to focus on a matematically correct laugh)
What did you think they were? Personal trainers?  

Neither of them were composers. Hanon certainly is not. He wrote exercises for piano. He did not write musical compositions. Czerny was primarily a piano teacher, who wrote a huge body of etudes. Aside from the thousands of etudes he wrote, he composed a small handfull of pieces that occasionally - and too often - get performed. That does not make him a composer in my book.