Etudes for 3 against 2

[ganymed]

Hey I played some pieces with this special rhythm and practiced it by clapping it with hands some mozart sonatas I played had 3 against 2 rhythm in it. But I have noticed that I havent reallly mastered this skill

Does anyone know some etudes for 3 against 2 ?

I was eyeing at Chopin Ab etude from nouvelle etudes any other suggestions ?

thanks in advance

[prins]

Philip Glass : Opening of Glassworks. Whole piece is 3 against 2.

Or simply play scale in one hand in eighth notes and in the other hand broken chords in triplets.

Regards

[gyzzzmo]

Chopin etudes niveaux (or however you spell it), 3rd one.

[dana_minmin]

a tip from my ex-teacher who is also a concert pianist:

do the 3 against 2 (or 4 against 3) calculation, then tap on your lap, then miraclously you'll get the rhythm.

[0range]

Philip Glass : Opening of Glassworks. Whole piece is 3 against 2.

Or simply play scale in one hand in eighth notes and in the other hand broken chords in triplets.

Regards

Seconded. It's a nice little piece that is simple enough to concentrate on the rhythm. Also, if you break it down, there's only something like 20 bars to learn.

A bit more advanced, and with not as much 3/2 (only about 10 bars, perhaps) is a piece by Victor Carbajo 'Humana Primavera III'. All of his sheet music is available on his website (mp3s too) - www.carbajo.net. Another option, a bit more advanced, is Henrique Oswald's 'Il Neige'... it is almost all 3/2.

[landru]

Here's what really helped me. My teacher assigned me a Chopin nocturne right before I was leaving for holiday vacation. The nocturne was the first time I encountered 3 against 4 or 2 against 3 and I was really struggling with the rhythm in the two weeks before my vacation.

So since I was going to be without a piano for over a week, I decide just to get the rhythms ingrained into my hands. So every free time I had, I just tapped out the rhythm on my legs. First I started out with one hand tapping out the "2". Once that was going on for a while at a slow pace, then I introduced the other hand and tapped out the "3" on the other leg. Then as I got it done at one tempo, I gradually got faster, keeping the same rhythm. In the beginning it took a lot of stopping and starting to get it even - but I eventually got it.

When I got back to the piano - my hands kinda had a mind of their own and did the rhythm without as much work as I thought I would need. I still use this method on other tricky rhythm parts I encounter.

[ganymed]

a tip from my ex-teacher who is also a concert pianist:

do the 3 against 2 (or 4 against 3) calculation, then tap on your lap, then miraclously you'll get the rhythm.

My teacher also did that with me. He broke down the rhymth for me so that i could count with the thirds with 1 2 3 ,paying most attention to playing triplets rhythmically correct and then adding the hand with the straight rhythmn to it. It works mostly but there are times where still I have to clap the rhythm once again to get the idea. Thanks for contributing to this thread. So in this way I hope to go about this problem once and for all by playing some etudes =)