So you want to write an invention...

[db05]

It just crossed my mind. Composing an invention. Something Baroque-ish for a change. Something polyphonic, since I get stuck with chords all of the time.

I've seen the youtube video, How To Write a Fugue. It's hilarious and mildly informative, but I think I missed some important details during the human fugue part. I don't even think I can go as far as 3 voices yet. Just two. Has anyone here done this? How should I start? 

[communist]

yes we have all seen that how to write a fugue video.

but anyway do not write baroqish

[db05]

yes we have all seen that how to write a fugue video.

but anyway do not write baroqish

LOL, why?
Don't anyone write any polyphonic then?

[communist]

because are we in the baroque era?

[db05]

because are we in the baroque era?

No. Okay.
*goes back to lame modern pop*

[loonbohol]

No. Okay.
*goes back to lame modern pop*

Monotonality. I think we should get to the Japanese pop.
And mix Japanese modern music with Baroque fugue and some Chopin style and Invent your own format then we can attain a new type of music.

then you have invented something and that is your invention therefore you have composed an invention.

Does it make sense.

[db05]

Monotonality. I think we should get to the Japanese pop.
And mix Japanese modern music with Baroque fugue and some Chopin style and Invent your own format then we can attain a new type of music.

then you have invented something and that is your invention therefore you have composed an invention.

Does it make sense.

I have only found 1 modern song similar to a fugue, very short and still NOT polyphonic. Some bands are on the verge of polyphony, if you count growling. 

Romantic/ Chopin style is already overdone in Taiwan.

Nan Quan Ma Ma - Daybreak

Jay Chou - Wounds of War

Baroque-ish? Maybe...
FIR - Lydia

[timothy42b]

Some bands are on the verge of polyphony, if you count growling. 

You're too narrow in your choice of genres.

Listen to some Dixieland - improvised five voice polyphony in the final section of every tune.  With at least two voice counterpoint going on all the time. 

I would agree with you for modern pop bands, probably, but what about "I'm a Survivor" with that string melody against the voice? 

And for a few years back, what about Andrews sisters?  Isn't that all polyphonic? 

[db05]

Enlightening. I've heard of Dixieland before. Andrews sisters? No idea.

Wait. How about a canon? (No canon rock, please.)

[timothy42b]

Andrews sisters? No idea.

Three sisters, a few years back (Lawrence Welk show), sang all the old standards doing harmony in thirds. 

[db05]

Three sisters, a few years back (Lawrence Welk show), sang all the old standards doing harmony in thirds. 

Cool.

[beethoven_fan]

because are we in the baroque era?

Fugues and inventions are meant to be written only the Baroque era ? Is that what you are saying ? Beethoven wrote some fugues. Remember the Hammerklavier ? He also wrote a "Grosse Fuge" for strings quartet.

[communist]

Fugues and inventions are meant to be written only the Baroque era ? Is that what you are saying ? Beethoven wrote some fugues. Remember the Hammerklavier ? He also wrote a "Grosse Fuge" for strings quartet.

well she/he said baroque-ish, this may mean somewhat baroque-ish or very baroque-ish. and i did not say he/she should not write an invention or fugue

[healdie]

Beethoven wrote some fugues. Remember the Hammerklavier ? He also wrote a "Grosse Fuge" for strings quartet.

most composers have written fugues, regardless of the time they were written everyone from Schumann to Shostakovich, brahms to Britten

[shinerl]

We were talking about inventions here

[jabbz]

I've written inventions and I'm a contemporary composer.

Go do it!

[00range]

I've written inventions and I'm a contemporary composer.

Go do it!

I agree. I've composed one as well, and I'm a contemporary non-composer. It's really not too difficult, the hard part is composing one that is interesting (mine, sadly, is not).

[db05]

Never mind... It's a lame topic anyway... 

[jabbz]

Think of the processes you see in an invention:

+ Imitation
+ Inversion
+ Retrograde
+ Argumentation/Diminution 

All of these things can be done in a contemporary musical language, I see no reason why it shouldn't. In fact, I invite everyone to write a simple one and post them here! I'll write one as well, for free, just the once. 

[db05]

All of these things can be done in a contemporary musical language, I see no reason why it shouldn't. In fact, I invite everyone to write a simple one and post them here! I'll write one as well, for free, just the once. 

Uhmmm... because it's hard to find two lines that sound good on top of each other? Even if it's just the same thing over and over again, like in a round song, how these things end up sounding good, I have no idea.