Single Note Cresc and Dim..

[zhiliang]

..I am currently learning the second movement of the Chopin Piano Concerto No. 1. I am using the 2 piano reduction. For the 2nd piano playing the orchestral parts, i come across a a measure where there is only one semibreve throughout the whole measure and underneath the note, there is this marking for CRESCENDO and then DIMINUENDO for the semibreve. It can be done easily on strings for the orchestra but how can one do that with the piano?

Has it got to do with pedalling?

Zhiliang

[thierry13]

Well...or you can start f and only diminuendo, or you can repeat the note,following the tempo. There are no apparent other ways, because with the pedal you can't make a crescendo effect clearly... I don't think there are other ways...but if you decide to repeat the note,don't put the ped. and be very close to the touches of the piano,making the crescendo with no strenght,but more the weight of your hand,body and all, to have a nice sound, it can same be a sound nearer to orchestra... and in the diminuendo you can put the "une corda" pedal but only to the and if you want to go to pp I hope to have answered your question:P

[zhiliang]

Thank you, i do not understand some of it over here. The una corda pedal when applied later would not make much of a difference already, would it? I thought it only applies to the moment of impact onto the strings and afterwards, it might not affect? Do advise me if i am wrong. Thanks again...

So it also appears that the cresc cant be done? Because for the dim afterwards, wouldnt i normall stuck note have a dim effect naturally too as the sound passes?

Zhiliang

[thierry13]

Well that's what i said, if you repeat the same note following the tempo(each time,each two time,etc.),at the end you could put the una corda to get a lower impact. When you remove your finger from a touch,if no pedals are pressed , there is a little ( don't know the word,i'm francophone)thing that stop the strings vibrating,so yes you could have a diminuendo if you just touch to nothing. But if you choose to repeat the note, repeat it all along,this will sound better, but choose by yourself! Hoping you now understand all

[Saturn]

I've never seen the sheet music for the piece.

But the second piano is playing a reduction of the orchestral parts.  The single note cresc and dim is probably written there only because that's what is written in the orchestral score.

If it can be done on a piano, I'd be very curious to see how.