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Offline joachim_volkmann

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looking for a variation for about 15 minutes!
on: November 12, 2008, 10:47:07 AM
to play with Haydn's f moll, und Brahms' Händel, which one would be properate?
Thanks

Offline sharon_f

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Re: looking for a variation for about 15 minutes!
Reply #1 on: November 12, 2008, 01:27:24 PM
Beethoven's 32 Variations in C minor are about 12 minutes long
Rachmaninoff's Corelli Variations are about 17 minutes
And Copland's great Piano Variations are about 12 minutes long.


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Offline Kassaa

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Re: looking for a variation for about 15 minutes!
Reply #2 on: November 12, 2008, 09:28:51 PM
Bizet Variations Chromatiques if you want something that's never played, Schumann Abegg variations, although I'm not too fond of them, I just found some 'Norish Variations' by R. Stevenson on a CD from Donna Amato, and I kinda liked them, but I know nothing about them, so not how long they are and how much there are, Beethoven Variations op. 34 are around 12 minutes long, some Mozart.

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Re: looking for a variation for about 15 minutes!
Reply #3 on: November 12, 2008, 10:51:04 PM
Slightly off the beaten track and shorter than you might want.

Henselt - Donizetti Variations
Czerny - Variations on a theme by Rode (played by Horowitz)
Dreyschock - Variations on "God save the Queen" for the left hand
Rubinstein - Variations on Yankee Doodle (ideal for American audiences)

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Re: looking for a variation for about 15 minutes!
Reply #4 on: November 12, 2008, 11:53:44 PM
Rachmaninoff variations on a theme by Chopin 28-30 minutes
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Re: looking for a variation for about 15 minutes!
Reply #5 on: November 13, 2008, 12:46:02 AM
Brahms' Variations on an Original Theme are about 17 minutes long.

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Re: looking for a variation for about 15 minutes!
Reply #6 on: November 13, 2008, 03:04:49 AM
i find longer variations semi-not pleasant..   i think they should be short anyway

if this were about 3 years (jahres in german) ago this would be the part where i post a recipe for baked chicken a la torte with a zuchinni pilaf topped off with flaky creme brulee puffs for dessert.

but it's not.. so now i will present to you something of the pianostreet standard;




                    Variations and Fugue on a Theme by Handel, Op. 24

i'm not asian

Offline mikey6

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Re: looking for a variation for about 15 minutes!
Reply #7 on: November 13, 2008, 02:06:45 PM

                    Variations and Fugue on a Theme by Handel, Op. 24

Don't think playing that twice in the same concert would be appropriate! ;) ;D
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Offline general disarray

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Re: looking for a variation for about 15 minutes!
Reply #8 on: November 13, 2008, 08:48:25 PM
Slightly off the beaten track and shorter than you might want.

Henselt - Donizetti Variations
Czerny - Variations on a theme by Rode (played by Horowitz)
Dreyschock - Variations on "God save the Queen" for the left hand
Rubinstein - Variations on Yankee Doodle (ideal for American audiences)

Thal

Great choices. 

Also, off-the-beaten path, are Czerny's "Variations on La Ricordanza," about 11 minutes.
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Offline thalbergmad

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Re: looking for a variation for about 15 minutes!
Reply #9 on: November 13, 2008, 09:15:23 PM
To be honest old chap, i cannot remember.

I think it is less though.

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Re: looking for a variation for about 15 minutes!
Reply #10 on: November 14, 2008, 04:18:49 PM
Go play 'Rhapsody in Blue' from Gershwin, it takes about 15 minutes and it will definitely bring some variation between the Haydn and Brahms  :P


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Re: looking for a variation for about 15 minutes!
Reply #11 on: November 17, 2008, 05:10:51 PM
I suppose it depends on how long you have to work up a new piece. If you wanted to play something really good which absolutely nobody else will be playing ever these days, try 'Fox Variations' by that most underrated composer Richard Arnell-if you can find a copy. Easier to find, rarely heard and well worth while would be Dohnanyi's 'Variations on a Hungarian Folk Song' Op.29. Both are about ten minutes long.

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Re: looking for a variation for about 15 minutes!
Reply #12 on: November 19, 2008, 11:38:45 AM
Mendelssohn Variations on Last Rose of Summer, but I'm not sure how long it is.

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Re: looking for a variation for about 15 minutes!
Reply #13 on: November 19, 2008, 08:08:58 PM
Grieg Ballade?
Instrumentalists are all wannabe singers. Discuss.

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Re: looking for a variation for about 15 minutes!
Reply #14 on: November 20, 2008, 06:49:07 PM
(Gyzzzmo is still yelling 'Rhapsodie in Blue, Rchapsodie in Blue')  ;)
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