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Offline rihyun

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Order of difficulty of these pieces?
on: November 28, 2008, 06:48:40 AM
Hello,

Please understand that I'm not trying to start a war or a contest to see what piece is the hardest; I just want to get a general idea of the difficulties of my favorite pieces.

If you could, please, rank these pieces in descending order of difficulty (that is, hardest to least difficult (I'll refrain from saying "easiest" because I frankly find none of these pieces even close to being easy)). Please consider both musical and technical difficulty.

If you're unfamiliar with particular works, feel free to omit them from your list.

(List is not ranked so don't judge me on this!)
Balakirev's Islamey
Stravinsky's Three Movements from Petrushka
Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit (Ondine)
Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit (Le Gibet)
Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit (Scarbo)
Chopin's Ballade No. 2
Chopin's Fantasie-Impromptu
Beethoven's Appassionata
Liszt's Mazeppa
Liszt's Feux Follets
Liszt's La Campanella

Thank you. :)

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Re: Order of difficulty of these pieces?
Reply #1 on: November 28, 2008, 01:15:24 PM
it depends on the pianist.
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Re: Order of difficulty of these pieces?
Reply #2 on: November 29, 2008, 07:43:22 PM
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Re: Order of difficulty of these pieces?
Reply #3 on: November 29, 2008, 11:17:26 PM
Hello,

Please understand that I'm not trying to start a war or a contest to see what piece is the hardest; I just want to get a general idea of the difficulties of my favorite pieces.

If you could, please, rank these pieces in descending order of difficulty (that is, hardest to least difficult (I'll refrain from saying "easiest" because I frankly find none of these pieces even close to being easy)). Please consider both musical and technical difficulty.

If you're unfamiliar with particular works, feel free to omit them from your list.

(List is not ranked so don't judge me on this!)
Balakirev's Islamey
Stravinsky's Three Movements from Petrushka
Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit (Ondine)
Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit (Le Gibet)
Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit (Scarbo)
Chopin's Ballade No. 2
Chopin's Fantasie-Impromptu
Beethoven's Appassionata
Liszt's Mazeppa
Liszt's Feux Follets
Liszt's La Campanella

Thank you. :)

scarbo
islamey
mazeppa
feux follets
appassionata
ondine
petrushka
ballade 2
la campanella
le gibet
fantasy impromptu

hope i helped
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Offline rihyun

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Re: Order of difficulty of these pieces?
Reply #4 on: December 01, 2008, 04:11:47 AM
scarbo
islamey
mazeppa
feux follets
appassionata
ondine
petrushka
ballade 2
la campanella
le gibet
fantasy impromptu

hope i helped

Thanks. I agree with most of your list, but I frankly believe that Petrushka (at least Movement III) is much harder than Islamey.

Offline teccomin

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Re: Order of difficulty of these pieces?
Reply #5 on: February 15, 2010, 06:27:42 AM
I will only rank the pieces I have studied/tried to study

Most difficult
Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit (Ondine)
Beethoven's Appassionata
Chopin's Ballade No. 2
Liszt's La Campanella
Chopin's Fantasie-Impromptu

Offline pianisten1989

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Re: Order of difficulty of these pieces?
Reply #6 on: February 18, 2010, 12:20:17 PM
Seriously?! Not another "Most difficult piece"-thread!??! Will you ever get sick of ranking stuff that is impossible to rank?!

Offline jbmorel78

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Re: Order of difficulty of these pieces?
Reply #7 on: February 18, 2010, 12:45:50 PM
Perhaps it would be a good idea for you to read through them yourself to have an idea of which lie best in your fingers, which stir the greatest response from you musically (this will fuel your work ethic), and which address weaknesses in your technical "arsenal" that you wish to improve?

Best,
JBM

Offline prongated

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Re: Order of difficulty of these pieces?
Reply #8 on: February 26, 2010, 03:29:24 PM
Seriously?! Not another "Most difficult piece"-thread!??! Will you ever get sick of ranking stuff that is impossible to rank?!

Check out when the OP posted it though...so many old threads have been bumped in the past month or 2, and in most cases, the OP has actually stopped posting in this forum!

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Re: Order of difficulty of these pieces?
Reply #9 on: May 03, 2010, 04:38:59 PM
I vote for that Islamey is the hardest, of all. Well, it's my opinion after all.
But, as pianisten  1989 mentioned , it's impossible, because they are different like "Which is better between cheese and computer.".
Although it is not impossible.
If you have something like a topic (for example, difficult in tempo). In this case, I think you mean by 'hardest to play' which varies from each pianist.
Anyway, I think that this would help (though I didn't even understand what I am saying.)

P.S. I can learn La Campanella all by myself. My teacher says Islamey is the hardest of all," Behold kids, the hardest song of all.*then he open a youtube video*).

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Re: Order of difficulty of these pieces?
Reply #10 on: July 13, 2010, 11:46:26 PM
scarbo
islamey
mazeppa
feux follets
appassionata
ondine
petrushka
ballade 2
la campanella
le gibet
fantasy impromptu

hope i helped
Really?  have you ever played Le Gibet? Coz it certainly ain't no where NEAR down the bottom! Don't think just coz it's slow, it's 'technically' easy!
Now I feel I have to back up my thoughts and compare the rest though...I HATE these things!  :-[
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Offline prongated

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Re: Order of difficulty of these pieces?
Reply #11 on: July 14, 2010, 02:08:41 AM
Well, it depends right? I find dealing with sound and tone not so hard, so I agree with where imbetter put Le Gibet in that list. In fact, I find campanella harder than ballade 2, and I'm pretty sure feux follets is generally considered harder than mazeppa...but indeed, let's face it, these rankings are pretty silly to do, especially the pieces in the top 7 - they all belong to that ridiculously hard pieces category!

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Re: Order of difficulty of these pieces?
Reply #12 on: July 14, 2010, 02:37:34 AM
i'll tell you the difficulties for me, it doest mean it is this way...

Chopin's Fantasie-Impromptu
Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit (Le Gibet)
Beethoven's Appassionata
Liszt's La Campanella
Stravinsky's Three Movements from Petrushka
Chopin's Ballade No. 2
Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit (Ondine)
Liszt's Mazeppa
Liszt's Feux Follets
Balakirev's Islamey
Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit (Scarbo)
Learning:

Chopin Polonaise Op. 53
Brahms Op. 79 No. 2
Rachmaninoff Op. 16 No. 4 and 5

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Re: Order of difficulty of these pieces?
Reply #13 on: September 11, 2010, 01:34:56 PM
Very difficult choice of-----difficult pieces.If i would asked to make'a musical PYRAMID(!)' I would put Chopin down then Stravinsky and Liszt.At the top of pyramid difficulty i would put both balakirev and ravel of course which requires top technique,good mood and much effort too! :)

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Re: Order of difficulty of these pieces?
Reply #14 on: December 15, 2011, 12:55:34 AM
Old post, I saw this yesterday.
Just have to say that I played through the first technical bar to occour in every one of these pieces (almost).
And holy sh*t, I really wish I didn't. There will be no Ravel Ondine for me for the next ten years. Ruined my collage goals.
Repertoire.
2011/2012

Brahms op 118
Chopin Preludes op 28
Grieg Holberg Suite
Mendelssohn Piano trio D minor op 49
Rachmaninoff Etude Tabelaux op 33 no 3 & 4 op 39 no 2
Scriabin Preludes op 1

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Re: Order of difficulty of these pieces?
Reply #15 on: April 06, 2021, 03:00:16 AM
In my opinion
Hardest
All 3 movements of Petrushka
Ravel Gaspard la nuit (Scarbo)
Islamey
Gaspard la nuit (ondine)
Gaspard la nuit (Le gebit)
Liszt Feux Follets
Liszt Mazeppa
Beethoven Appasionata
Chopin Ballade 2 (This one is the 2nd least hardest out of 4 in my opinion, the hardest is the 4th ballade, and the easiest the 3rd.)
Chopin Fantasie Impromptu (A lot of kids age 8-12 play this)

Least hardest
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