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macman1288

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hi..im trying to find a good piano piece to start working on...i dont know what to learn though..im 15..level 9 trinity college and ive been playing since i was seven..at 9 i learned sonata pathitique by beethoven and mapleaf rag by scott joplin..i went away for a year then came back, and began piano again,learning songs by billy joel and more modern people for a while.. so far in the past year or so ive learned fantasie impromptu, im working on chopins etude op.25 no.1,chopins etude in e major op.10, some impromptu song i forgot the name, and rachmaninoff piano concerto no.3..
i dont know a whole lot about composers and stuff, or pieces. you all seem to know everything about piano, so i have come here to ask what is a good piece to work on thats my level, but sounds nice..im tired of songs that are just hard but dont sound good. but please dont get like technical with notes and stuff, i dont know how to read music..i learn by ear..

id appreciate any advice, thanks

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bernhard

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Re: help on piece

Reply #1 on: June 01, 2004, 11:47:26 AM

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monk

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Reply #2 on: June 01, 2004, 12:29:00 PM

Bernhard, your answers are always great!

But i suspect that Macman just wanted to joke with us

If he doesn't joke, then the following answer applies:

Hello Macman,
the pieces you already have played ARE sounding good.
They are some of the greatest and most beautiful pieces ever written for piano.
If you don't hear that but instead moan that "they are just hard and don't sound good", then you really have no taste and I don't know how to help you, sorry.

Best Wishes,
Monk

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Saturn

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Reply #3 on: June 01, 2004, 05:24:38 PM

Only advice I can give you: learn to read music.

Most students have trouble because they learn to read music before learning to use their ears. You, on the other hand, already know how to play by ear. So learning to read notes should be very easy for you, because the music will already make sense to you. Unless you're lazy.

But uh... you learned Rach 3 by ear? I'm impressed, to say the least. I hope you're better at playing the piano than you are at telling lies.

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rlefebvr

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Reply #4 on: June 01, 2004, 05:32:17 PM

Actually, it was a very good question as I have not read or seen half of the threads Bernard mentions and I am very interested in the Thunderous, passionate minor key music and Haunting nocturnal pieces threads.

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imfrickenfoofy

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Reply #5 on: June 01, 2004, 05:38:20 PM

hi..this is macman..i had to change my screen name caus i changed my password and it sent a new password to my old email address...when i said im tired of not good sounding pieces i made i made it seem different than i meant..the pieces that i play, i love..but my teacher has been getting me to work on pieces that dont sound good, so i get bored and stop them..as far reading by ear..im LEARNING piano concerto no.3, but i am not completed..the teacher basically plays the song, i watch his hands and fingers, and then i play..i repeat it and i remember it..hes been trying to get me to read notes but i get too lazy, but im considering taking a class..what im trying to ask is..a piece like piano conceto no.2 by rachmaninoff...things similar to that that you are aware of?

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JK

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Reply #6 on: June 01, 2004, 08:02:00 PM

There are thousands upon thousands of pieces out there that meet your requirements, too many really to list without leaving loads out, but for a start; Chopin Nocturnes, Sriabin-well anything really, Rachmaninov preludes,Beethoven sonatas........the list goes on infinately!!

:oYou don't read music

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You MUST learn to read music NOW!!!! If you don't then you will not progress beyond a certain stage, your teacher is not always going to be there for you to copy! Also if you don't read music then there is no way that you can practice properly at home beacuse you can only play what you remember and nothing new. And there is no way that you can include all the details that a score has written on it such as dynamics and articulation etc. Playing music is not simply about playing notes it is about attention to detail and personal interpretation, these can only really be developed if you start to learn to read music NOW!!!

Lastly I must add that there is absolutely no way that anyone can learn Rach3 completely by ear, you have to have the music. You've probably learnt the more simple parts (if there are any!) but I can assure you that the rest of it is too hard to learn simply by copying your teacher!!!!

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imfrickenfoofy

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Reply #7 on: June 02, 2004, 12:15:15 AM

as far as the rachmaninoff 3 goes, what basically happens is that my teachers (i have two) read the music that i have of the song..and then play it..show it to me..and i repeat it several times and i memorize it..trust me i know that simply hearing the song and then being able to play the rach 3 is impossible, but trust me, the way ive been learning works..although it isnt as efficient as reading..last night i began reading the rach 2 mvmt 2, and im kinda getting it..i want to be able to read but i bairly find time to practice..but soon enough i will be able to..i will look for chopins nocturnes though, i appreciate your assistance very much

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pianorin

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Reply #8 on: August 20, 2008, 03:24:46 PM

greetings,
I want to ask whether it's possible to learn the 1st movement of Rachmaninoff piano concerto no.2 in 3 months??

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