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Offline communist

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question about Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody no.2
on: December 27, 2008, 02:50:44 PM
according to Richard Kastle everyone fakes the split octaves and at one part they put there hands underneath each other meanwhile they are supposed to put them next to each other.


for everyone who plays this, do you fake it?
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Offline learner of liszt

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Re: question about Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody no.2
Reply #1 on: December 29, 2008, 07:50:36 PM
Richard Kastle is a self-centered idiot who likes to sound smart. While some pianists do miss notes on that page, it's only to be expected: we're not machines. There are many other much more difficult passages in other pieces and in that piece. But to answer your question, I do not "fake".
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Re: question about Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody no.2
Reply #2 on: December 30, 2008, 09:08:36 AM
OH yeah the HR2 is the hardest piece in the world and it the ONLY piece you need to play to prove anything to do with piano. You also don't need to be able to play the whole piece, just the ending, if you can do that without faking it you are the only person, next to Kastle who can do it!!!!! ..... rrriiiiiiighhhhhhhtttttttttt
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Offline learner of liszt

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Re: question about Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody no.2
Reply #3 on: December 30, 2008, 05:13:11 PM
Richard Kastle is also the guy who said Alkan's Allegro Barbaro is easier than HR2. :-X
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Re: question about Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody no.2
Reply #4 on: December 31, 2008, 01:20:39 AM
Kastle's statements about this piece do not make any sense.  Grammatically it does but correct grammar does not sense it makes.

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Re: question about Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody no.2
Reply #5 on: January 03, 2009, 09:56:46 PM
While I do not agree with Kastle at all, Allegro Barbaro IS much, much easier then HR2. I have played them both, and Allegro Barbaro is not even particularly difficult

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Re: question about Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody no.2
Reply #6 on: January 04, 2009, 10:04:18 PM
You could end up in a long argument with a lot of people over that, but I consider Allegro Barbaro to be more difficult, having also played them both. Mainly the pare before furiosissimo in the right hand.
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Re: question about Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody no.2
Reply #7 on: January 04, 2009, 10:30:25 PM
at least he uses correct grammer
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Re: question about Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody no.2
Reply #8 on: January 06, 2009, 06:31:57 PM
Doesn't he claim that HR2 is the hardest piece ever? Or is it just the ending?
It feels kind of silly if a Vigrin-pinianist (the label, not a virgin pianist) says that this piece is harder than oc, and "gets away" with it...?!

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Re: question about Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody no.2
Reply #9 on: January 07, 2009, 12:30:28 AM
He's a nobody, of course he gets away with it. Who cares about some wannabe pianist rambling.
What i think is an interesting question (like it's really interesting, ....) is whether he trolls or is serious. His persistence is astounding, but of course he's not so stupid as to not see that there's tons of repertoire that's much more demanding than any part of the hr2. So i think he's trolling & trying to get attention, maybe just so people get to know him and maybe he actually has some records out? In that case it would not really be smart marketing i guess.
In the latter case, it works. There have been many threads about him in this forum and in other piano forums too.
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Re: question about Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody no.2
Reply #10 on: January 07, 2009, 06:46:10 PM
Well, Not all attention is good atention. And another a bit fun thing is, that he claims that he is the only one that does it right, He also claims that all symphony orchestras is wrong... Like, noone is right, but him, and he knows the best of all musicians in the world.

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Re: question about Liszt Hungarian Rhapsody no.2
Reply #11 on: January 10, 2009, 02:28:57 PM
Personally, I believe that it doesn't matter if you miss the odd note here and there. The page with the octaves going in and out, I do miss the odd note or two. When I go through the piece and make it all correct, then I'll play it with the notes.
Oh and this isn't the hardest piece you could play. Yeah it's hard, but it's how you tackle it. I think there are harder pieces you can play, but that's just personal opinion.
Fantastic piece though, one of my favourite pieces of all time!
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