Help with Messiaen etude

[wolff]

Ile de Feu I.  Right hand part of this bar:



Any ideas on how to play this?  I simply can't play this efficiently or correctly with any consistency. How high should my wrist be?  This bar is quite frustrating.

[retrouvailles]

I've had to passages like this and the fingering there is pretty much what you should use. Also, a high wrist would be optimal for such a passage. You know, I wouldn't think this bar would be frustrating. It seems like one of the bars that would be the easiest in the piece.

[wolff]

I will experiment with wrist height again tomorrow.  Maybe I just need to grind it into my hand by playing it a couple of hundred/thousand more times.  And, oddly, this has been the only thing I've had trouble with so far in the piece.  The only other challenge I see is the right hand in the Vif section following the glissandi.

[quantum]

Have you tried practicing by grouping the notes of one hand position as a single chord?  Eg: F,F#,C# as one chord?

Also try not too much legato, work more from the wrist than the fingers. 

[wolff]

Heh, there are a few passages where the same group of notes are played as chords.  I think I was using my wrist too much and consequently my hand was a bit wobbly, but this seems to be slowly going away.