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Offline illuminist

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Esoteric
on: March 25, 2009, 11:25:08 AM
The thing that interests me most about music as an art form
is that it's expression lies beyond the physical which brings me
to the subject of the esoteric,

does anyone know of music's relationship to the occult?

another thing you might find interesting is Franz liszt historically was claimed
to be able to see music in colour, it's apparently called synasthesia if
anyone's familiar with it


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Offline lostinidlewonder

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Re: Esoteric
Reply #1 on: March 29, 2009, 06:53:33 AM
Synesthesia is a form of brain damage I think, where the brain incorrectly associates a sensation with another sense. It is not a sign of genius or high level of training.
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Re: Esoteric
Reply #2 on: March 29, 2009, 08:50:53 AM
It is neither a sign of brain damage nor a matter of correctness.
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Re: Esoteric
Reply #3 on: March 31, 2009, 08:03:00 PM
Synesthesia is a form of brain damage I think, where the brain incorrectly associates a sensation with another sense.

Synesthesia is not brain damage, at least I hope not!  :-X ( I did manage to type this post ) I have it to some extent, but I have the version where I taste some words!  :P For me certain words when I hear them or read them and think of them make me imagine a known taste and the word always tastes the same. I might have some of the other kinds to a much lesser degree also. I only know of a few a occasions where I hear music and 'see' colours. I thought everyone had it until I watched a tv program about it and found it to be a kind of 'syndrome' or not quite 'normal'.

normal sucks anyway 8)
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Re: Esoteric
Reply #4 on: March 31, 2009, 11:04:59 PM
A little bit of research will show you that it points towards a form of brain damage. Unfortunatly people consider what they THINK is what they KNOW, thus misinformation will be spread. It is extremely rare and it is funny that a lot of people on pianostreet admit suffering it.

Acquired synaesthesia tends to arise from damage to anterior portions of the brain, often the optic nerve. It also can be drug induce with halucinagenics, thus is not a normal occurance in the brain.

https://www.macalester.edu/psychology/whathap/UBNRP/synesthesia/SYNBRA~1.HTM
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Re: Esoteric
Reply #5 on: March 31, 2009, 11:57:14 PM
Trying to read that white font against that background would probably cause some braindamagem or at least soar eyes.  ::)
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Re: Esoteric
Reply #6 on: April 03, 2009, 08:11:58 PM
Synaesthesia is not a form of brain damage, it's a form of connection between two ore more senses. People with synaesthesia link for instance colours to sounds or to smells. They usually live a completely normal life, many of them enjoy their enlarged possibilities of perceiving the world. Many of them have become artists.

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Re: Esoteric
Reply #7 on: April 04, 2009, 12:45:27 AM
Brain damage doesn't mean you are in a wheelchair uncontrollably dribbling and unable to feed yourself. It certainly does not highlight artistic ability in my opinion.
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Re: Esoteric
Reply #8 on: April 04, 2009, 12:13:38 PM
Synaesthesia is not a form of brain damage, it's a form of connection between two ore more senses. People with synaesthesia link for instance colours to sounds or to smells. They usually live a completely normal life, many of them enjoy their enlarged possibilities of perceiving the world. Many of them have become artists.

Thank you pianowolfi, I completely agree with you, I'm also an artist, but I don't think it really helps me in anyway as I don't have the colour version.

Heres a link to the infomation in the program I watched. It explains it in other ways, it doesn't mention brain damage and is more common then people think; and to me the infomation is almost spot on to how I experience it. And the website doesn't have those awful trippy backgrounds! 8)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/derek_qa.shtml
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